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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I like Trump. He’s my 2nd choice behind Cruz.

I don’t agree with Cruz’ position on H1B, and a few other issues. No candidate is going to agree with everything I believe in, and if they did, I’d suspect them of pandering to me.

Now. Trump isn’t advocating eliminating H1Bs here. That would be one thing. Instead, he’s advocating using the full force and power of the federal government to make a company hire back workers they determined weren’t doing their jobs adequately.

Disney’s My Magic Plus IT development is hundreds of millions over budget, years behind schedule, doesn’t function at all in key areas (coordination of marketplaces - this is the part where Disney plans to use traffic and purchasing patterns to suggest future purchases), and is glitchy in other areas (requiring significant service recovery and creating brand damage for hundreds of customers each day.)

HB1s aside, Disney has every right to replace its workers for cause.

If Trump wants to rail against HB1s, that’s fine. That’s not what he did here.

Here, he says that he will use the power of government to force a company to adopt his view of their current employer habits; he will prevent them from being allowed to terminate employees.

Any candidate that wants to use the power of government in such a way should make the people on this website cringe rather than cheer.

Look at my posting history, I do not typically speak ill of Trump and I’ve complemented his campaign many times.

I don’t agree with Trump here. That’s fine, I don’t always agree with Cruz either.

I’m just surprised to see the support for the heavy hand of government to enforce its wishes on the private sector - here.


33 posted on 10/31/2015 5:39:03 AM PDT by ziravan (Buck the Establishment.)
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To: ziravan
HB1s aside, Disney has every right to replace its workers for cause.

But not with H-1B as I read the law. Also, having dealt with a bad division in my company that got outsourced (with even worse results), I can say that line workers in our division provided to management a clear synopsis of what was wrong with that division (a few bad apples not adhering to basic tenets of SDLC), and a viable way forward. Management refused to act on those and axed the whole division, including some very valuable employees who we never have been able to adequately replace (and whom management later tried to hire back). In my experience when IT shops are not working, it is largely a management problem, not a line worker problem, especially with older employees who know how stuff is supposed to be done).

43 posted on 10/31/2015 5:48:45 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: ziravan
HB1s aside, Disney has every right to replace its workers for cause.

Then they need to establish "cause" in each individual case, the way it's always done. "We want to import hundreds of cheap foreigners with the connivance of the US government to do your job" isn't "cause".

47 posted on 10/31/2015 5:55:42 AM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: ziravan

I would take issue with certain statements you’ve made because I feel you have extrapolated intentions of Trump that do not, IMHO, hold water. You have stated:

1. he’s advocating using the full force and power of the federal government to make a company hire back workers they determined weren’t doing their jobs adequately.
Nowhere do I see any allegations that the “workers were not doing their jobs properly.” Common sense would dictate that if someone is not doing his job properly, Disney would certainly not demand that person to TRAIN his own replacement! That would be simply replacing incompetence (at a lesser cost) with more incompetence.

2.HB1s aside, Disney has every right to replace its workers for cause.
FOR CAUSE? Where is for cause shown? I do not see it and if the development is over cost and behind schedule, might not a large part be due to top management errors or incompetence? My experience tells me that top management is to blame. It is extremely rare (including all the defense contracts as well as other bureaucratic bodies) to bring in any contract under budget today. One person who has accomplished it repeatedly has been Donald Trump. It is one of his immense talents. I am certain he understands the issues here .
3. Using the power of government to force a company to adopt his view of their current employer habits; he will prevent them from being allowed to terminate employees.
Trump is merely stating he will use the power of the federal government to ENFORCE the LAWS already on the books and to stop the practice of ignoring and sidestepping the laws as they were written.
Considering the thousands of employees Trump has hired over the years, and the fact that there is no noisy thunder from people he has employed, he must be a pretty good person to work for. That’s good enough for me.


103 posted on 10/31/2015 12:19:12 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: ziravan

I believe he only said that in regard to employers terminating their employees for H1-Bs.

That seems extremely consistent with the H1-B visa intent.


106 posted on 10/31/2015 4:54:55 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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