Posted on 10/22/2015 9:53:06 AM PDT by dayglored
Of course we had to pit the Surface Book vs. the MacBook Pro. It’s like Ford vs. Chevy, or Coke vs. Pepsi. Each side has its diehard fans, plus others who just want to know which is better.
Microsoft claims its new Surface Book is “twice” as fast as its equivalent MacBook Pro. Well, we ran some benchmarks, and hate to say it, but Microsoft lied. The Surface Book isn’t twice as fast.
It’s three times as fast. Read on for the details.
What Microsoft meant
First, let’s clarify what Microsoft meant when it said the Surface Book would smoke the MacBook Pro. The company specifically means the MacBook Pro 13 inch model. That’s a very important distinction, because the MacBook Pro 15 is a different class of laptop. It’s larger, heavier, and packs a quad-core CPU and fairly beefy AMD discrete graphics. For Microsoft to say the Surface Book out performed the MacBook Pro 15 would be absurd. It would be like Apple saying the MacBook Pro 15 outperforms, oh, an MSI GT 80 Titan SLI laptop in gaming. So the target for the Surface Book is the MacBook Pro 13. Microsoft even compares the two directly in its reviewers guide.
How I tested
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(Lots and lots of detail at the source...)
(Excerpt) Read more at pcworld.com ...
Help me out here... Apple is fundamentally a "system" manufacturer -- integrated hardware and software that are designed to work together as a (largely closed) system. Apple makes their money from the hardware aspect. The software "comes with the hardware", which is why you can't find successful Mac clones (yeah, I know about Hackintoshes).
So what is all this about a "big brother, services approach"? That sounds more like the direction Microsoft is taking, "Windows As A Service" and playing footsie with the NSA... (*cough*) not that there's anything wrong with that (*cough*).
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
List of known updates, true less than Windows but not what I would call rare.
I don't doubt that the Surface Book only runs Windows 10.
But that's not "awful". Windows 10 is a fine OS. I don't personally like it as much as Win 7, but it's perfectly usable. I'm running it now at work and at home and it's okay. Hardly "awful".
You do have to turn off all the stuff that sends your personal data up to Microsoft Central, but it turns out that's pretty easy.
> ...I'm running it now at work and at home...
In virtual machines (VMs). As a learning experience.
In general, I plan to stick with Win 7 until it loses support in 2020, because I prefer its look and feel to that of Win 10.
Stay off the porn sites and you will be fine.
Wait, isn't that what Linux boxes are for?
Hey, hey, hey--don't go dragging us into this fight.
I was enjoying this thread.
Wow. Microsoft leap frogged Apple big time!
“doesn’t work, then they can go make an appointment with a competent person to get it fixed.”
It is not more difficult to debug and fix a mac than a windows machine for a computer savvy person. I don’t recall when I last had to consult outside help (other than google) to fix my macs or my windows boxes. However my macs have failed less. Much less.
As well we should. (I'm on my CentOS box...)
More proof what a rip-off Apple products are.
I dont really use Premiere, so I cant say. The one I’ve used to rip old VHS tapes worked just fine.
As far as graphic programs, I dont see much of a difference. 25 years ago I would have never used any on a PC, but today Photoshop runs just the same. You dont need a Mac to do any of that stuff.
It isnt the brand of the tools, it’s how competently you can use them.
And I have to do far too much work with databases. I only wish that they didnt work on any platform.
Sure, but your link includes the Mac OS X, the iPhone/iPad, the Apple Watch, and some major upgrades (free, btw) and follow up things.
Well stated.
Have you sold your Apple stock yet?
Exactly!
As much as it is assumed that I think OSX is a “terrible” OS, I’ve never once gave an opinion of its daily functionality because I haven’t used it in over 10 years. I used to use Linux more than I used Windows back around 2008-10, and my experience wasn’t the best, so I likely will never use it again.
“Not going to get into this, my computer I built from parts is “fast enough.” But I do love a good show...”
I’m with you on this one...custom building is why I stick with Windows, but I have done builds with Linux. I’ll watch this Apple/MS war from a distance on my PC built on a ASUS Sabertooth 990FX motherboard, AMD FX8350 (OC to 4.7 Ghz w/Danger Den CPU waterblock), 32Gb HyperX Beast RAM(1866 Mhz), Radeon 7870 graphics, and 10K rpm Western Digital HD. Can’t do that with Apple so I have no dog in this fight.
Speaking of GPUs, I'll bet it's a kick at mining BitCoins. :-)
iCloud, Apple Music, Apple TV, iHealth, app Store, iPay, in-app purchases, off the top of my head. Forgetful?
You have a point there. I don't use any of those other than the App Store, and tend to ignore them. My bad.
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