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Time for Trump to Take It To Carson On Illegal Immigration
10/15/2015 | self

Posted on 10/15/2015 11:03:08 AM PDT by conservativejoy

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To: conservativejoy

>>I don’t see anything in Carson’s skillset that speaks “Leadership” to me,

Neither do I. That’s why I’m not supporting him for President.


41 posted on 10/15/2015 12:26:05 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: conservativejoy

Most of the illegal aliens I’ve known were illegal because they violated the terms of their visa. They don’t have criminal records back home, and perhaps come from a middle class background and are deemed to have familial or economic interests back home and are therefore eligible for a tourist visa (varies widely by country.)

They return to their home countries every 6 months or so to renew. They work here illegally either under the table or with a fake ID.

The few I had met who actually walked across a border did so because they were not wealthy enough (had no economic interest back home) to qualify for a ‘laser’
visa.

My experience is of course just a small anecdotal sample. I’d prefer some real numbers and a few details from any politican proposing a plan.


42 posted on 10/15/2015 12:57:44 PM PDT by posterchild
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To: Dr. Sivana

Cruz is my preferred also. I am hoping for a great politician with clarity on this issue and not merely ‘better than’ another candidate. I am also leery of ‘outs.’


43 posted on 10/15/2015 1:01:44 PM PDT by posterchild
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To: posterchild

One statistic that has stuck with me is that 85% of illegals in California are on public assistance. Under Trump’s plan, that would eliminate a large chunk of California’s illegal population to deportation.


44 posted on 10/15/2015 1:27:43 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy

Actually I like guest worker programs. I saw first hand how well that is working in Singapore, where 40% of jobs are held by foreign workers. (There is no measurable unemployment for Singapore citizens, it is close to zero).

However Trump is exactly correct in deporting ALL illegals first. Allowing them to stay is ignoring immigration laws. We must follow law, otherwise it is a slippery slope. There can not be amnesty for breaking laws.


45 posted on 10/15/2015 3:24:58 PM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote for a candidate, you are actually voting for his/her rich donors!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Astute observation GG2. Carson is draining all those amnesty voters from Bush, Rubio, Fiorina and even Cruz. Speaking of Ted Cruz, he talks a good game but go to his website: http://www.tedcruz.org and you’ll find there’s no mention of deporting illegals.

We know from Cruz’s past statements that he wants to double legal immigration with big increases for Mexico, China and India (all will vote overwhelmingly socialist when they become citizens) and increase H-1Bs by 500%. What’s the point in electing a so-called “constitutional conservative” whose immigration plans will destroy the country?


46 posted on 10/15/2015 3:28:58 PM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote for a candidate, you are actually voting for his/her rich donors!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Astute observation GG2. Carson is draining all those amnesty voters from Bush, Rubio, Fiorina and even Cruz. Speaking of Ted Cruz, he talks a good game but go to his website: http://www.tedcruz.org and you’ll find there’s no mention of deporting illegals.

We know from Cruz’s past statements that he wants to double legal immigration with big increases for Mexico, China and India (all will vote overwhelmingly socialist when they become citizens) and increase H-1Bs by 500%. What’s the point in electing a so-called “constitutional conservative” whose immigration plans will destroy the country?


47 posted on 10/15/2015 3:28:59 PM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote for a candidate, you are actually voting for his/her rich donors!)
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To: entropy12

My objection is that his position is more than the guest worker program. He advocates rewarding illegals with citizenship and that is totally unacceptable.


48 posted on 10/15/2015 4:01:51 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: entropy12

Can you give a reference for Cruz wanting to double legal immigration? The only thing I have read and heard him say is that we must reduce current levels of immigration because our infrastructure and services cannot sustain it.


49 posted on 10/15/2015 4:05:54 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy

He made it a point several times to want a 500% increase in H1B Visas.


50 posted on 10/15/2015 4:09:00 PM PDT by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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To: conservativejoy

http://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=137


51 posted on 10/15/2015 4:10:00 PM PDT by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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To: conservativejoy

That is from one of his speeches earlier. I tried googling exact speech but did not find it.


52 posted on 10/15/2015 4:23:02 PM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote for a candidate, you are actually voting for his/her rich donors!)
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To: Fledermaus

That is not the same as wanting to increase legal immigration by 50%. I don’t agree with his position on H1-B Visas, but I also have noted that he wants to Decrease current levels of legal immigration that he says are unsustainable for infrastructure and services.


53 posted on 10/15/2015 4:28:12 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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