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1 posted on 09/30/2015 1:45:56 PM PDT by sushiman
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I know how it would work:

Get some reapers to patrol our side of the border wearing Hellfire missiles in case a tunnel rat emerges.

Enough said.


2 posted on 09/30/2015 1:48:52 PM PDT by InsidiousMongo
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Everybody has a reason why a wall won’t work. Then what are they afraid of? Lets build the wall & they can see if they are right or wrong.

I’ll bet the guy who is telling you this, has a wall/fence around his house to keep out the undesirables.


3 posted on 09/30/2015 1:49:19 PM PDT by gubamyster
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What about the oceans? As long as our system rewards illegal immigration, they will get to the U.S.


4 posted on 09/30/2015 1:49:57 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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A wall is a dumb idea. If people have the incentive to come, they will come. They’ll tunnel deeper, use submarines, who knows what. What we need is to take away the incentives. If illegals have no anchor babies, no welfare, no healthcare, no drivers licenses, no tax rebates, no jobs, no etc. they won’t come. No wall needed.


5 posted on 09/30/2015 1:50:06 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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Build the wall then shut down the tunnels.
Shutting down the tunnels and leaving the border open is laughable.
Doing nothing about either leaves us where we are now.


6 posted on 09/30/2015 1:50:37 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Eagles fan after loss to Dallas -- This is the first time I ever saw the "prevent offense".)
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Personally I’d set up minefields then open it up to public bidding and a lottery.

As far as a wall goes it could easily work and was manned with heavily armed individuals and a lot of sensors. Tunnels will always be attempted with some successful but tunnels are fairly easy to find and GPR is one of may ways to detect them.


7 posted on 09/30/2015 1:51:23 PM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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Tell him the wall will be built down to bedrock therefore it will be impossible to tunnel under.


8 posted on 09/30/2015 1:51:55 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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Combined Ground Penetrating Radar and Seismic sensors? All underground activity would be detected.


9 posted on 09/30/2015 1:52:13 PM PDT by BushCountry (If you're wondering, "I got my screenname before GW was elected the first time.")
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Vibration sensors along the wall buried. Standard tech thats been around forever. One goes off, you send up the helis, ID the source and start shelling it if Mexico refuses to arrest and remove the tunnelers/secure the site.


10 posted on 09/30/2015 1:53:09 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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Yeah youre right. I will only cut down 100k per month to just a handful. Might want to cut back on the tequila pickled fish in your diet.


13 posted on 09/30/2015 1:54:23 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative
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There are types of sensors that can be emplaced to monitor for tunneling activity.
 
 

14 posted on 09/30/2015 1:55:00 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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He doesn’t seem to understand. A dam doesn’t stop all water from flowing down hill, but at least it funnel and reduce the water flow to stop a flood


18 posted on 09/30/2015 2:00:45 PM PDT by 4rcane
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Terrorism from the West Bank into Israel went down to 0 when the wall was built.


19 posted on 09/30/2015 2:00:50 PM PDT by AU72
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The Border Patrol says 40% of the border is secure, leaving 60% wide open.

A fence/wall would change those percentages.

Yes, we need to get rid of the incentives but in the meantime we can reduce the number who enter.

Ask Israel if a fence/wall works.

Heard about a suicide bombing in Israel lately?


24 posted on 09/30/2015 2:07:34 PM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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I have to agree the proposed wall will not stop all of the illegals or all the drugs, but it will sure as hell make a large dent in both. I did not see anything in Trump’s or Carson’s or anyone’s proposal that eliminated the Border patrol, so I guess they will still have work to do.

By the way, for all you naysayers about the wall, check the success of the wall in the Yuma sector. I have heard a reduction of illegals and drug smuggling of 75% to a high of 90%. I would call that a success.


25 posted on 09/30/2015 2:08:35 PM PDT by Tupelo (Trump is no Reagan, but by God he is a fighter.)
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I am 120% behind a wall and boots on the ground, shoulder to shoulder, fully armed soldiers with live bullets and orderer to shoot. But the tunnels do appear to be something of a problem. Understand that they are very, very deep, quite sophisticated in their construction with outlets in parking lots, under bathrooms, in vacant buildings, etc. throughout the U.S. side of the border. There also does not appear to be any current technology that can locate them at that depth.

Would think that someone could come up with technology to locate them so they could be destroyed. Or we may, indeed, have to create another Grand canyon the entire length of the border. Dynamite is certainly cheap and effective and it would be a great tourist attraction.


26 posted on 09/30/2015 2:11:27 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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Sure, there are tunnels, but they are mainly used for smuggling drugs.

Most of the migrants just walk across the border, because with no enforcement, there is no need to resort to elaborate stuff like tunnels.


27 posted on 09/30/2015 2:12:35 PM PDT by Boogieman
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we would not have to build a wall if we took away incentives

JAIL anyone who hires illegals.
STOP welfare payments to non-citizens

Problem solved


28 posted on 09/30/2015 2:16:58 PM PDT by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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1)Build the road between the double wall first.
2)Locate and mark as many existing tunnels as possible.
3)Drag a deep penetrating GPR (ground penetrating radar) sled behind a truck along the road and map the earth beneath the road.
4) With the GPR data and the existing tunnel data create a baseline underground topography
5) Build the double wall
6) Every month recon the road between the wall with the GPR sled and compare it against the initial baseline taken before the wall was built. The recon / comparison could be done in real time.


29 posted on 09/30/2015 2:17:34 PM PDT by reviled downesdad (Mother Teresa on abortion: "It's poverty that children must die so people can live as they choose")
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2000 miles of no wall is better than a few tunnels which can be easily detected and made unusable with a simple explosive device? So illogical, so wrong, and so prejudiced against the Wall.

Why do you think Israel built a wall to keep Palestinian terrorists out? Why did China built a 13,000 mile long wall?


30 posted on 09/30/2015 2:18:21 PM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote for a candidate, you are actually voting for his rich donors! Trump has no rich donors)
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