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To: Robert Teesdale

Eye witness tells of “four to five minutes” of terror as cops held bikers at gun point until they died

http://radiolegendary.com/2015/09/eye-witness-tells-of-four-to-five-minutes-of-terror-as-cops-held-bikers-at-gun-point-until-they-died/


6 posted on 09/01/2015 1:15:14 PM PDT by ExyZ
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To: ExyZ
Thank you for the link. I have reviewed it and there are some things that stand out in the narrative:

"...they “immediately” ran over a prospect in the Cossacks Motorcycle Club,"

As I have heard reported, this was a tire going over a foot and not a motorcycle running down a man in the parking lot. In other words, intended and taken as an deliberate offense rather than as a serious crash creating consternation and melee. Does that matter? It can. One can envision a scenario where "here come the Bandidos" is voiced; the Cossacks prospect stands a little too close, just to be a dick; the Bandido on his bike refuses to ride around him; an ego and a foot and then mutual pride is bruised; et cetera. The subsequent traded obscenities also fit that scenario and don't necessarily rise to the level of provoking armed retaliation.

I speculate only. I think the speculation is reasonable. I don't advocate this speculation as fact.

He and other members of his club had been invited to attend the Confederation of Clubs and Independents meeting by a member of the Waco Police Department, Luther said in a YouTube interview with Michael Parker of “Antidote” news service. The invitation from the Waco Police was relayed through a prospect of the club who is a former Bandido.

Right there I am going to call several levels of bovine excreta. First, I do not believe for a moment that any member of any club would consider an invitation to a COC meeting, extended by law enforcement, to be valid in any way. Second, I do not believe any law enforcement agency would expect a message relayed through a prospect to be received as valid. Third, I do not believe any club would accept such invitation. On my last point, the article said that the Cossacks requested agreement from national leadership but it does not specifically state such agreement was obtained.

The rest of the article covers men bleeding out and dying while aid was prevented at gunpoint.

That also seems reasonable to me, as such conduct is in keeping with what I have seen to be standard practice from American law enforcement.

I do not say that such practice is reasonable; merely that it is reasonable to believe it was engaged in on May 17th in Waco.

As an aside, I have no knowledge of any club business, or comment on the same.

My opinion's worthless, but respectfully offered nonetheless.
7 posted on 09/01/2015 1:31:41 PM PDT by Robert Teesdale (III% | 4GW)
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