We share perceptions on this, Mr. Teesdale.
I also suspect that this recitation by Luther is somewhat self-serving and divergent from the factual. It feels as though it’s the agreed upon story from the Cossack side.
I would add that interviewee also mentioned ‘automatic rifle fire’ which is something we’ve heard from another witness somewhere in the dim past. I still doubt that even police in panic mode would be that idiotic.
I’m also curious as to whether this interview is in violation of the gag order.
Interesting.
If the police shot a suspect, I can see that, not that I think it is the right thing to do.
However, under that M.O., If I am shot by a third party, the police preventing aid (at gunpoint) is beyond unreasonable, and fodder for a wrongful death suit.
The inference is that the police did the shooting.
Have not read the review but did just listen to the whole interview. The one thing that stood out to me was Luther giving his recollection of hearing pistol fire then "within seconds" rifle fire. Said it sounded like Viet Nam. Frustrating thing was the interviewer did not press him for any detail, like "How many seconds? Five? Fifteen? Thirty?"
This is important because Brent Stroman said that his men Waco PD) were in their cars when the first shots were fired. This makes for a reasonable suspicion that LE other than Waco PD fired the first rifle shots. This is important, because the DOJ has been silent on this thing while there is a reasonable suspicion that BATF were the initial shooters from the LE side, and DOJ is pretending like it has nothing to do with them.
Luther said he hit the ground when rifle fire commenced and could not determine source of the fire. He crawled inside.
Luther opines that bikers killed 3 and LE killed the rest and put injuries on several
Good post. Another thing confirmed in this report, and the single most curious factor in the case of what went on that day is that this man saw police positions going in... It has never made any sense to me that a premeditated and intentional rumble would go forward within a virtual fishbowl with LEOs around the perimeter.
Bikers, as a rule, are not fools... many of them having served in war, and many more having experienced less than favorable treatment with law enforcement... This guy was sharp enough to be uncomfortable with what he saw as a flanking movement by the Bandidos - It seems incredibly unlikely to me that he and others would not be just as keenly aware of those LEO positions, and their very qualified dominance over the battlefield in that parking lot.
IF there was intention on the biker’s part, from either side, it seems pretty short-sighted to continue without sending scouts to position in such a way as to counter that effective dominance, because otherwise, any idiot would be able to predict the ensuing turkey-shoot...
It is far more likely that any such premeditated action would be called off to await a day with better odds. I know that if I had rolled up there, and saw such a presence, my radar would be screaming at me, and I would have rolled right on by (as proven on several occasions in my life). It makes no sense at all.
“The subsequent traded obscenities also fit that scenario and don’t necessarily rise to the level of provoking armed retaliation.”
1. He states that the Bandidos punched the dude that came to the aid of the Cossack prospect.
2. He states that then 30 or 40 Cossacks jumped the rail to attack the Bandidos.
3. He then states he saw the Bandidos shooting.
4. He states he heard about five pistol shots before he hit the ground.