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But on the Apple side... Personally I'm not at all fond of the "flat look" of Yosemite, which is why I intend to leave my personal machines at Mavericks as long as possible (and my oldest machines are still at Snow Leopard; I might take them up to Lion but it's kind of who-cares at this point).

I'm in the same boat as you. I like buttons that look like buttons and that act like buttons. I want it to react enough to show that i've pushed it when I click on it. I like skeumorphistic representations. Perhaps I'm a luddite that way, but I like things that represent what they are in the real world. It give one a sense of connectedness to reality, what it is, and hints on how to use it.

I'm getting used to the flat look. An operating system should be unobtrusive, a background on which everything else operates, not something that intrudes itself and screams "here I am." In that way, I can appreciate an OS that is subtle, not glaring and in your face.

> I like buttons that look like buttons and that act like buttons. I want it to react enough to show that i've pushed it when I click on it. I like skeumorphistic representations. Perhaps I'm a luddite that way,...

I right there with ya, Sword. I don't think it's Luddism, I think it's appreciation of style. Apple has always led the industry in style and good industrial design.

Apple has drifted away from their focus at times, e.g. Pepsi-man, recent social politics, etc. but they get it back eventually. I believe this "flat" look is a temporary aberration and they'll get back on track reasonably soon.