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Does anyone know a good HR attorney to minimize the long term career impact of standing up for my principles?
1 posted on 07/27/2015 11:03:50 AM PDT by tbw2
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It is hard to be a rational thinker in the midst of insanity. I wish you well with all of this. I do not know of anyone to recommend.


2 posted on 07/27/2015 11:06:38 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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Start cross dressing and they’ll drop the issue.


3 posted on 07/27/2015 11:07:15 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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Do you know of any lawyers at all? If so, you can call them and ask them for a referral. I have found lawyers know other lawyers or heard of good ones. Hope this helps.


5 posted on 07/27/2015 11:13:48 AM PDT by momtothree
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I am a lawyer and I can give you some valuable HR advice that won't cost you a dime: Zip your mouth about non-work issues when you are at work! Why are you advising co-workers about their marital and familial problems? And why are you posting anything for or against gay marriage to work websites or from work computers? Yes, it may be nuts that employers have jumped on the gay marriage bandwagon, but does that mean that you, too, should act unprofessionally? I read your post and wondered, “Doesn't this guy have an actual JOB to do? Why does he have the time to yak with coworkers about their divorces, etc?”

If you don't stop talking about non-work matters while you are at work, you are going to get fired — not laid off; FIRED — very soon. While I don't think your viewpoints should get you fired, I can tell you that it sounds as if HR can make a strong, legitimate case that when you're at work, you don't spend enough time...at work.

6 posted on 07/27/2015 11:13:49 AM PDT by utahagen
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internal intranet

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Maybe just leaving the ‘internal intranet’ alone would help the situation.


7 posted on 07/27/2015 11:14:23 AM PDT by deport
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8 posted on 07/27/2015 11:14:40 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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This is going to be the way of it from now on.

If you want to be REAL proactive, you could convert to Islam, and that would trump all their BS.

ISIS might even decide to take a few "selfies" with your co-workers...

9 posted on 07/27/2015 11:15:42 AM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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Can’t give advice on legal HR issues. I didn’t even stay at a Holiday Inn Express. But I can give some common logic advice on your workplace character and co-worker relations.

You seem like the type of person that is respected enough to seek out for opinion. Otherwise you are the outspoken and opinionated person that “gets involved” voluntarily. We’ll assume the former rather than the latter.

#1. Shhhh. Stop giving advice at work and, if you must or feel so inclined, seek a place to meet after hours.

#2. Start looking for another job yesterday.

You must be a very approachable, considerate, trust worthy, Christian leader, popular among your peers and of high moral character to invite the type of intimate trust your colleagues find in you. Still, several folks must have ratted you out to compile a list with HR that long.


10 posted on 07/27/2015 11:18:09 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (From this point forward, I identify as a female illegal immigrant of African decent.)
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Please forgive me for not answering your question. Instead, I'd like to pass a little story along. A conservative friend of mine was very vocal about political issues at work. End result? The company fired her for being "disorganized". She's now in her mid-40's, with few job prospects. And her efforts changed nothing.

Please, please don't let that happen to you. Advocate, but advocate away from the workplace. Even though lib's can get away with it, it's really not appropriate anyway.

Good luck.

11 posted on 07/27/2015 11:20:06 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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If you value your job, how you can even open your mouth one sliver on this stuff is beyond me. There is utterly no way you can come out on the right side of any of these issues if you any sense of traditional morals or values. Zip it!


12 posted on 07/27/2015 11:21:56 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder
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Go with this guy. I hear he never loses a case.


13 posted on 07/27/2015 11:22:03 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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Your principles don’t mean much to an organization that hired you to work and produce an output you should be qualified to produce at a rate that keeps you employed. This other stuff gets you fired. I’ll bet you are already on the 1 to n list at number 1.


14 posted on 07/27/2015 11:22:46 AM PDT by Republic_Venom (It's time for some Republic Venom!)
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1. Shut up

2. Never send a political email. Emails are forever.

3. If you are using a company computer on a company server - everything you do is being monitored and will be used against you.

4. You are an “at will” employee. You can be fired at any time for almost any reason.


16 posted on 07/27/2015 11:33:55 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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#1. Your employer owns the computer. #2 How the Hell do you know all these freaky sexually challenged individuals? #3 Your principles do not mean you have to answer this crap at work. #4 If your employer is THAT far into LGBGTAEIOU ? Maybe you need to find someplace that is not queer, Marxist, anti-Christian, anti American.


18 posted on 07/27/2015 11:36:11 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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I don’t have an attorney recommendation for you, but as a former HR Manager, listen to the advice others have offered regarding doing your job and keeping your mouth shut about all things not work related. Also, find another job fast. Not likely an attorney can do much for you other than to completely destroy any chance of you getting another job.


20 posted on 07/27/2015 11:43:48 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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Conservatives need to keep a low profile these days in the corporate world, especially with multi-nationals. I would almost consider yours to be a hostile work environment and would consider moving on. I know my next venture will be either trying to start my own business or working at a much smaller place. Money and benefits are important but I’d be willing to work for less to not have to deal with all the pro homo trans crap and not be able to speak my mind about it.


23 posted on 07/27/2015 11:48:38 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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I can totally empathize with your plight...

The company that I’m employed with does a lot of this...I just ignore it and don’t participate in or initiate any discussion relating to these topics, at all.

I’m looking for other employment, but I’ve found that just about any company with more than 50 employees is going to have some kind of similar policies...

Keep in mind, if you want the “king’s gold”, you gotta play by the king’s rules...it’s tough out there.

I’d suggest you consider whether this is a hill worth dying on...


24 posted on 07/27/2015 11:50:19 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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It sounds like the company realizes it is under a Lavender/Gay Mafia attack from within and is trying to minimize damage and it's liability. You're being baited IOW so they can sue the company. They shouldn't be posting for advice on companies comm system and any advice I would give off company property. Actually the ones filing complaints on you aren't looking for advice. They are fishing for litigation and SETTLEMENTS in discrimination lawsuits. Don't take their bait and enable. Remember you likely do not know their spouses, kids, etc and the whole lot of them may be laughing all the way to the bank.

BTW the boss is walking your way I saw him walk in a second ago {just kidding about that part. One last word of advice. NEVER assume any conversation over any communication network analog or digital is private.

29 posted on 07/27/2015 12:03:04 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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Just stop commenting on anything that is personal/political.

It’s the only way to rectify it. HR could be setting you up. Don’t give them any ammo. My cookie cutter reply is “no comment”, if they persist suggest they go talk to someone that has that training in HR.

Then walk away.


34 posted on 07/27/2015 12:10:03 PM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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These sorts of conversations shouldn’t be happening on company intranets anyway. The only advice you should have given publicly was that this was not professional behavior on their part.


35 posted on 07/27/2015 12:14:59 PM PDT by llabradoodlle
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