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Need HR lawyer recommendation
n/a | 07/27/2015 | me

Posted on 07/27/2015 11:03:50 AM PDT by tbw2

I need the recommendation of an HR attorney / law firm in North Texas regarding an HR issue. At work, you can get 20 notices of "yeah, same sex marriage!" postings on the internal intranet. I posted one link to an article discussing why Obgerfell was such a radical decision, didn't even post the text. Was reprimanded that this was: A. a violation of diversity policy B. offensive to lbgta C. politicking at work

Had a separate issue where a woman asked for advice regarding her husband wanting to cheat on her with a man, but keep the family together. I advised that if she'd tolerate him cheating, whether with a man or woman, get disease testing, lay down strict rules on the propriety and don't let him waste her money on that person. And if she wanted to leave, I could refer her to a good divorce attorney. I was told this was homophobic and an inappropriate topic at work. I said an aggrieved woman was asking for advice, so if my response was inappropriate, so was the whole discussion. I stated to HR that a woman with four young children under 10 was seeking advice, so I gave what was normal advice 20 years ago. And the fact that she was repeatedly referred to spouses of same sex groups meant I was the only contrary opinion ... That was a prior warning.

Another case had a guy asking about advice on his 17 year old son coming out at homosexual at 15, now decides he's transgendered. Father asked advice, I said counseling to rectify mind with reality. That was homophobic/transphobic.

Telling a woman whose husband left her for a guy that it was so tragic a 30 year marriage ended led to a direct challenge with someone else. I stated that it was sad that he abandoned his family due to his feelings, that do what you feel trumps do what you promised to do and had been doing for decades.

I've received written warnings for these issues, in the past year. Don't want to get fired with this type of negative file, don't know what to do otherwise.


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To: Safetgiver

Large facility, defense contractor, management moving left as fast or faster than Obama, in the name of tolerance and diversity.
The HR director actually did a seminar on “What white men really think”.
Now they’re lecturing people on unconscious bias.


21 posted on 07/27/2015 11:47:07 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Safetgiver

Naw. He murdered his wife. Jimmy Stewart saw the whole thing!


22 posted on 07/27/2015 11:48:25 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (The night is far spent, the day is at hand.- Romans 13:12)
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To: tbw2

Conservatives need to keep a low profile these days in the corporate world, especially with multi-nationals. I would almost consider yours to be a hostile work environment and would consider moving on. I know my next venture will be either trying to start my own business or working at a much smaller place. Money and benefits are important but I’d be willing to work for less to not have to deal with all the pro homo trans crap and not be able to speak my mind about it.


23 posted on 07/27/2015 11:48:38 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: tbw2

I can totally empathize with your plight...

The company that I’m employed with does a lot of this...I just ignore it and don’t participate in or initiate any discussion relating to these topics, at all.

I’m looking for other employment, but I’ve found that just about any company with more than 50 employees is going to have some kind of similar policies...

Keep in mind, if you want the “king’s gold”, you gotta play by the king’s rules...it’s tough out there.

I’d suggest you consider whether this is a hill worth dying on...


24 posted on 07/27/2015 11:50:19 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: utahagen

In the case of one of the same sex marriage issues, the company did a page and a half expose on a guy talking about how great it was to come out at work, eventually his family and young children supported him. The matter came up, I gave an opinion.

Company mandatory training on these issues.

Private discussions that come up, though my father suggested I may be baited as an open conservative at work.

I’m not talking about these things constantly at work, but HR, management and employees in ERGs do. And any contrary opinion is now deemed a violation of diversity rules.


25 posted on 07/27/2015 11:50:26 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: ozarkgirl

Other people at work are discussing these matters.
In some cases, I was reported by others in the conversation for “homophobic” remarks. In others, the instant message conversation I had was sent to HR.


26 posted on 07/27/2015 11:55:31 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2

I feel for you, I do. But you have to ZIP it at work from now on. If you’re fired, you can bet the company will be careful to fire you for a reason unrelated to your views. ZIP IT!!!


27 posted on 07/27/2015 11:57:28 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: tbw2

“Company mandatory training on these issues.”

One place I worked at, it was interesting getting sexual harassment training from female HR babes dressed in attire that made hookers look conservative. Just have to play the game and move on.


28 posted on 07/27/2015 12:02:37 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: tbw2
It sounds like the company realizes it is under a Lavender/Gay Mafia attack from within and is trying to minimize damage and it's liability. You're being baited IOW so they can sue the company. They shouldn't be posting for advice on companies comm system and any advice I would give off company property. Actually the ones filing complaints on you aren't looking for advice. They are fishing for litigation and SETTLEMENTS in discrimination lawsuits. Don't take their bait and enable. Remember you likely do not know their spouses, kids, etc and the whole lot of them may be laughing all the way to the bank.

BTW the boss is walking your way I saw him walk in a second ago {just kidding about that part. One last word of advice. NEVER assume any conversation over any communication network analog or digital is private.

29 posted on 07/27/2015 12:03:04 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Safetgiver

Ironmason.


30 posted on 07/27/2015 12:05:35 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: tbw2
"Other people at work are discussing these matters. In some cases, I was reported by others in the conversation for “homophobic” remarks. In others, the instant message conversation I had was sent to HR."

Doessn't matter if others are discussing it, and if you are using company resources or time to IM, that is likely a separate offense. You have been given good advice on this thread. Your best course is to discuss nothing that is not directly job related. If you get fired, you will likely be marked and find it very difficult to get another job, plus an attorney will not likely be able to help you based on the information you have provided.

31 posted on 07/27/2015 12:07:00 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Phlap
Go with this guy. I hear he never loses a case.

Love the show, but Raymond Burr had problems of his own. At least he was discreet about it. Oh, and Perry Mason practices in California, not Texas.
32 posted on 07/27/2015 12:07:58 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: tbw2

Funny how the word diversity has been re-purposed to mean “lockstep”. It’s what liberals do.


33 posted on 07/27/2015 12:09:37 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: tbw2

Just stop commenting on anything that is personal/political.

It’s the only way to rectify it. HR could be setting you up. Don’t give them any ammo. My cookie cutter reply is “no comment”, if they persist suggest they go talk to someone that has that training in HR.

Then walk away.


34 posted on 07/27/2015 12:10:03 PM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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To: tbw2

These sorts of conversations shouldn’t be happening on company intranets anyway. The only advice you should have given publicly was that this was not professional behavior on their part.


35 posted on 07/27/2015 12:14:59 PM PDT by llabradoodlle
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To: tbw2

You are going to get a much delayed reply from me seeming to join a pile on. Sorry in advance. My comments are being delayed by moderation because I’m new.


36 posted on 07/27/2015 12:14:59 PM PDT by llabradoodlle
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To: tbw2

You should learn quickly not to go against the preferred narrative. There is a pecking order of the privileged and it shifts constantly.

Lead, follow or get out of the way.

IIWM I’d be looking for another job.


37 posted on 07/27/2015 12:17:03 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: tbw2

You simply have to realize that as a hetero you are now a second class citizen.


38 posted on 07/27/2015 12:25:22 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: tbw2

You don’t need an attorney.

You need a muzzle.

Shut up and keep your opinions to yourself, regardless of who is asking for what.

You might have gotten a clue from the written warnings you state that you’ve received.


39 posted on 07/27/2015 1:07:21 PM PDT by dmz
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To: tbw2

Have you considered working at work?


40 posted on 07/27/2015 1:09:26 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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