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The whole idea of the Native people of the Americas living in harmony with nature until the Europeans came is pure bunk. A lot of research has come out of how native people transformed the ecology of the Americas. I read about how the Amazons were once home to millions of people. Some believe it was mosquitoes that carried malaria being brought across the Atlantic from Europe and Africa that wiped out this Amazon based culture/civilization.
1 posted on 07/24/2015 6:22:31 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

This theory was the subject of a book some years ago.
I think it was titled “1491.”


2 posted on 07/24/2015 6:25:58 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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To: C19fan
1491-short review and

The book.

3 posted on 07/24/2015 6:27:44 AM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: C19fan

Then, according to the enviro-nazis, we should do everything in our power to return it to its previous condition.


4 posted on 07/24/2015 6:38:12 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (Liars use facts when the truth doesn't suit their purposes.)
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To: C19fan

I seem to vaguely remember some article years ago about planes detecting straight-lined formations under the jungle. I’ll have to see if I can find it.


6 posted on 07/24/2015 6:43:05 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: C19fan

But according to PBS the ARF is at least eleventy billion years old.


8 posted on 07/24/2015 6:45:26 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: C19fan; NYer; zot

Obviously “we” can blame the Christian God for creating man in his envrionmental destroying image. Or so the Gaia worshipers will claim...which will be saying that the God they don’t believe in actually created the earth.

And I as a Christian am not in agreement with my sarcastic words I’m putting in the mouth of honest Gaia worshipers, who probably believe what I’m saying.


9 posted on 07/24/2015 6:49:14 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: C19fan
The notion of "preserving" something that is dynamic and ever changing in its nature is problematic indeed.
Rivers turn into swamps, then wetlands, meadows and forests while the river took some other path and the cycle repeats elsewhere.
When humans are part of the process it becomes even more of a problem for enviros.
The ecology of pastures for example are heavily dependent on the farmer doing his thing every year.
If you try to freeze it in time by stopping all human activity it becomes something else.

10 posted on 07/24/2015 6:51:14 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: C19fan

A DNA Search for the First Americans Links Amazon Groups to Indigenous Australians

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/dna-search-first-
americans-links-amazon-indigenous-australians-180955976/?no-ist


11 posted on 07/24/2015 6:51:54 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: SunkenCiv

PinGGG!...................


12 posted on 07/24/2015 6:52:28 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: C19fan
Agenda 21 was implemented way before its current incarnation.

May the piranha consume the UN.

13 posted on 07/24/2015 6:59:04 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: C19fan


15 posted on 07/24/2015 7:00:38 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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The fact that there were more people there in the past doesn’t equate to a man made forest.

The thin infertile forest soil doesn’t lend itself to large scale farming very well. Its why the natives practice slash and burn farming. The 6 inches of fertile topsoil is worn out in a few years so they let the forest reclaim the land and move on to clear more land.

Obviously they can farm on a large scale today but its only due to modern farming methods that include constant soil maintenance. Its like trying to farm in southern California without irrigation.


16 posted on 07/24/2015 7:06:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: C19fan

The book 1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus discusses this extensively.


17 posted on 07/24/2015 7:12:40 AM PDT by zek157
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To: JenB

Didn’t you read 1491?


19 posted on 07/24/2015 8:28:43 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: C19fan

I read the book “1491” also. I looked all through the book for some proof, but did not find any. I found only speculation. One of the speculations was that the new world was more populated than the old.

If so, how come every time they put a shovel in the ground to build something in Europe, they find remains. That is NOT the case in the new world. In fact, the remains of native americans are relatively rare.

The entire chapter speculating on the 94% death rate for diseases was TOTALLY without any kind of proof. There has never been a plague that kills that high a percentage in the past (that has been documented). The reason the book stopped at 94% was because going higher was even more unrealistic.

1491 was a total waste of time.


30 posted on 07/24/2015 1:25:16 PM PDT by jim_trent
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To: C19fan
An origin of new world agriculture in coastal Ecuador (12,000 BP)

Rainforest Researchers Hit Paydirt (Farming 11K Years Ago In South America)

31 posted on 07/24/2015 5:29:00 PM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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34 posted on 07/24/2015 6:23:32 PM PDT by dfwgator
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