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Chinese leader: Religions must be free of foreign influence
Associated Press ^ | May 20, 2015 8:02 AM EDT

Posted on 05/20/2015 5:30:23 AM PDT by Olog-hai

President Xi Jinping has warned that religions in China must be independent from foreign influence as Beijing asks domestic religious groups to adapt to Chinese society and pledge loyalty to the state.

China is ruled by the atheist Communist Party and Beijing tries to control a variety of religions and their spread. …

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TOPICS: Local News; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: communism; redchina; stateatheism; xijinping
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Put differently, “religions must be about theology, not politics.”

No, the fascism in China now assumes everything is about politics.

"All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State." ~ Musolini

21 posted on 05/20/2015 5:53:49 AM PDT by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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To: Olog-hai
But...but...that's an outside influence, too.

No, their god is their belly. That works for the Deceiver, though.

22 posted on 05/20/2015 5:54:43 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Its why the left wants religion silenced here. Men like Reverend George Whitefield preached that men should be free to follow their own spiritual conscience which inevitably led to men questioning the authority of the king to impose his will against the conscience of his subjects. The British responded by trying to impose their own approved ministers who spoke kindly of the king. This led to even greater tension.


23 posted on 05/20/2015 5:59:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Olog-hai

Hardly.

I guess you’re one of these idiots who believes that the revolution was a purely secular thing and religious people are to shut up and know their place.


24 posted on 05/20/2015 6:01:37 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Smokin' Joe

Marx is technically an outside influence as well.


25 posted on 05/20/2015 6:04:13 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: cripplecreek

You are correct. The singular, salient, impediment to the agendae of the homosexuals, abortionists, eugenicists, and swarms of others who would do evil is the conscience of devout Christians and Jews who refuse to ‘go along’.


26 posted on 05/20/2015 6:04:52 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Olog-hai

True, but they have Mao.


27 posted on 05/20/2015 6:05:27 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Olog-hai

People who say that Religion and Politics should not be discussed almost always are simply trying to avoid the Truth of Almighty God.

Politics is nothing more than a manifestation of society's faith (or lack thereof).

28 posted on 05/20/2015 6:25:38 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Olog-hai

The Catholics suffer the most from this Communist attitude, since communion with the Succesor of Peter, i.e. the Pope, is part of the religion, but is deemed “foreign interference” by the Communists. Other religions will of course suffer under state/party control but don’t of necessity have the foreign connection.


29 posted on 05/20/2015 6:31:30 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Smokin' Joe

A while back I was reading about the events surrounding the Pine Tree riot of 1772 New Hampshire. (Thou shalt not cut the king’s trees) The locals were desperate to grown their farms to match their growing families so they started cutting the trees and using or selling the lumber without approval.

It seems that a minister loyal to the king was believed to be an informant and was literally chased out of town in fear for his life. The minister was acting as an agent of the state rather than an agent of God and his flock.


30 posted on 05/20/2015 6:37:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Smokin' Joe
Resistance to tyranny becomes the Christian and social duty of each individual. Continue steadfast and, with a proper sense of your dependence on God, nobly defend those rights which heaven gave, and no man ought to take from us.”

- John Hancock, Provincial Congress, Resolution to Massachusetts Bay, October 1774
31 posted on 05/20/2015 6:53:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Olog-hai

A lot of this goes back to the pseudo-religious Taiping Rebellion, which may possibly have been the second bloodiest conflict after World War II.

Few Americans are familiar with this 14 year war, as it overlapped the US Civil War, and because Americans and Europeans were involved in its beginning and end.

To make a long story short, American missionaries gave a religious tract or pamphlet to the wrong guy. Both crazy and incredibly charismatic, after skimming it he decided that he was “Jesus’ younger brother”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion

American historians estimate 20 million people were killed. British historians, 30-50 million.

In any event, since then, leaders of China have been scared half to death by Christianity, even though it is obviously not a threat, and they lump other religions together as also having the potential to become murderous beyond belief.

They have similar feelings about student uprisings, which almost destroyed their country during Mao’s Cultural Revolution. So when the leaders looked out their windows at the peaceful protesters in Tienanmen Square, a lot of them were so terrified they curled up in a fetal position on the floor and started to weep.


32 posted on 05/20/2015 7:15:42 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Jack Hammer

Absolutely correct, though the Buddhist “heads” are within China.


33 posted on 05/20/2015 8:40:29 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos

I’m afraid I must be out of touch - what, exactly, is a Buddhist “head”?


34 posted on 05/20/2015 8:43:06 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Olog-hai

Correct. Communism only works when people have hope only in government.


35 posted on 05/21/2015 3:23:05 AM PDT by exnavy (the feral gubmint should be prosecuted.)
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To: exnavy

And even then, it does not work.


36 posted on 05/21/2015 5:54:52 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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