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To: fireman15; Star Traveler; dayglored; Loud Mime; itsahoot; amigatec; PA Engineer; House Atreides; ...
As I told you previously I used the paid Sprint service before purchasing a Bluetooth receiver and it worked fine for turn by turn navigation.

Sprint service is a server based system . . . it does not use anything on your phone except the very general plus or minus 110 meter accuracy of your e911 GPS that your phone is capable of generating. Sprint then extrapolates your location as closely as it can and locates you on a map it sends you. In some urban areas, it may be as accurate as 10 meters.

Your phone cannot do GPS absent a Sprint Internet connection. What the Sprint GPS is doing is the MS Assisted GPS as was described in a linked article above. You have to pay for this service. It cannot be downloaded into your phone because it lacks the hardware to work.

Alternately, you have to buy an external bluetooth GPS transceiver which DOES have the radios, antennas, and chipset that your phone completely lacks.

There are many posts on the forums that confirm that the PPC-6700 has GPS.

And you can find many posts on the internet that show even more people love Obama and think he's the best president the US has ever had. That doesn't make it true. . . or make him the greatest President.

Nor do all those posts make that GPS capability in the PPC-6700's processor at all useful for anything except e911. . . which is what it is intended for as all the authoritative links, I have provided to you have claimed and shown, including Qualcomm, fireman15!

Every phone made since 2005 has the exact same GPS in it. . . e911 GPS. . . and it is not what you and those people on the internet forums think it is. I posted the information on exactly WHAT it is. . . but you have continuously ignored it. Your processor has the capability of calculating your position by interpolating the position of nearby cellular towers and checking with Verizon's data bases for known Verizon WIFI hotspots and Trilaterating the phones position from those data. If it had access to satellite data, it could also use those data as well, but it doesn't, so it uses what it has sent to it from Sprint/Verizon.

YOUR phone does not have the GPS radios nor does it have the specialized GPS chips or antennas that are absolutely required for satellite GPS to work. These radios and antennas have to be tuned to 1575.42 MHz (10.23 MHz × 154) and 1227.60 MHz (10.23 MHz × 120) and the antennas have to be an exact specific length to receive those signals. They just do NOT exist in your phone. The radios it has are tuned to 1900MHz and 800MHz, as are the antenna lengths. It needs one more radio receiver and two more antennas that just aren't there. Oops!

All of the calculations and turn-by-turn directions were done OFF site by Sprint's GPS servers, not your phone. . . which downloaded the data to your Windows phone.

It would work with ANY Windows cellular phone in Sprint's system that can display a map and play a voice. . . because by law all cellular phones are required to have an e911 GPS capability. Do you understand now?

65 posted on 05/20/2015 10:24:37 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker
YOUR phone does not have the GPS radios nor does it have the specialized GPS chips or antennas that are absolutely required for satellite GPS to work.

I do appreciate the research you have been working so hard at for my benefit. However you are just going over the same posts that I read many years ago and which were proven to be mostly inaccurate. Actually the phone does have the chips and it does have an internal GPS antenna; at his point I am about ready to break it open so I can take some pictures for you. But as I said in my previous post. This discussion went off the rails and it just doesn't matter or prove anything other than you are an extremely condescending know-it-all that can be easily misled by any posted discussion from nearly ten years ago that you feel supports your position.

I purchased my first portable GPS, a Garmin 95 AVD for our General Aviation Airplane and was using it before you probably were even aware that such units even existed.

69 posted on 05/20/2015 11:22:38 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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