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To: Swordmaker
YOUR phone does not have the GPS radios nor does it have the specialized GPS chips or antennas that are absolutely required for satellite GPS to work.

I do appreciate the research you have been working so hard at for my benefit. However you are just going over the same posts that I read many years ago and which were proven to be mostly inaccurate. Actually the phone does have the chips and it does have an internal GPS antenna; at his point I am about ready to break it open so I can take some pictures for you. But as I said in my previous post. This discussion went off the rails and it just doesn't matter or prove anything other than you are an extremely condescending know-it-all that can be easily misled by any posted discussion from nearly ten years ago that you feel supports your position.

I purchased my first portable GPS, a Garmin 95 AVD for our General Aviation Airplane and was using it before you probably were even aware that such units even existed.

69 posted on 05/20/2015 11:22:38 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15; Star Traveler; dayglored; Loud Mime; itsahoot; amigatec; PA Engineer; House Atreides; ...
I do appreciate the research you have been working so hard at for my benefit. However you are just going over the same posts that I read many years ago and which were proven to be mostly inaccurate. Actually the phone does have the chips and it does have an internal GPS antenna; at his point I am about ready to break it open so I can take some pictures for you. But as I said in my previous post. This discussion went off the rails and it just doesn't matter or prove anything other than you are an extremely condescending know-it-all that can be easily misled by any posted discussion from nearly ten years ago that you feel supports your position.

Break it open. . . it has already been taken apart by organizations such as iFixIt. . . and no antenna's are in there. The FCC has to certify what radios are in the phones before they can be sold in the USA. Its licensing does not show any GPS radios. QED there are none in the phone. I have searched the internet quite thoroughly and the HTC website does NOT claim on their spec sheet any such capability for this phone. . . which they DO claim for later models. If it had such capabilities, they would claim it. Ergo, it doesn't have such capabilities. Manufacturers do not waste component costs on building a phone and then not utilize them. . . or leave them inactivated. Nor can they include them in a phone and not declare them to the FTC on certification. They would FAIL. You just do not understand that such capabilities in an electronic device would be a huge RED flag in this day of Homeland Security if it is hidden and not declared, not certified. Etc. they're not there.

72 posted on 05/21/2015 12:01:05 AM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: fireman15; Star Traveler; dayglored; Loud Mime; itsahoot; amigatec; PA Engineer; House Atreides; ...
I purchased my first portable GPS, a Garmin 95 AVD for our General Aviation Airplane and was using it before you probably were even aware that such units even existed.

I think you underestimate my knowledge base. While i did not work with aviation my self, my father worked in aviation his entire life. I also had clients in trucking and they were buying GPS units in the early to mid-90s to track their semis. So, I am not at all misled by anything I have known and studied in depth. YOU don't know what you are talking about on a phone you own. I do know what I am talking about on e911 and you haven't a clue. . . you keep making stuff up trying to counter my authoritative sources.

Actually the phone does have the chips and it does have an internal GPS antenna;

You have not ONCE posted a link that counters what I have posted. You posted a link to the Qualcomm processor page and I explained to you what you did not understand what you were reading with links SHOWING you what it meant. . . including A-GPS, and links showing that SPRINT and Verizon use MS Assisted GPS. . . and another link explaining exactly what THAT means. I posted a citation from an expert in the field. . . who explained that the PPC-6700 does not have the support chips or antennas.

All you have is somebody claimed that it does. . . and somebody made it work. But NOT ONE SINGLE LINK ANYWHERE COMES UP WITH THAT CLAIM! I've looked. I know how to do exhaustive searches. If you can find that proof. . . please post it. All I have found is wishful thinking and hopes of people who REALLY REALLY want their antique phone to behave like a modern phone with a real GPS in it.

YOU are obviously one of them and you post anecdotal stories about your recall of someone who knew someone who once said he read something about someone who had a third cousin who claimed to have done it. That is not evidence. I posted evidence that it does not have a genuine GPS capability, just the basic e911 capability that ALL cellular phones are capable of doing for emergency purposes.

73 posted on 05/21/2015 12:26:19 AM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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