Posted on 04/24/2015 7:11:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
As Yerevan and Armenians across the world gather to remember the 1.5 million killed during the massacres, Richard Spencer explains what happened On Friday, Yerevan and the Armenian disapora together with world leaders in the Armenian capital will commemorate the 1.5 million victims of the Armenian genocide .
It is the 100th anniversary of the date on which the Ottoman Empire began its attack on Armenians when intellectuals and political leaders were rounded up in Istanbul on April 24, 1915.
What was the Armenian genocide?
As the Ottoman Empire suffered its first losses in the First World War, the “Young Turk” government rounded up intellectuals and political leaders from its Christian Armenian minority. It then went one step further - ordering the community’s expulsion from Anatolia to Syria.
Across eastern Turkey, long columns of Armenians were ambushed by soldiers and Kurdish gangs, who slaughtered them by the hundreds of thousand. Instructions from provincial Ottoman officials, notably the governor of Diyarbakir province Mehmed Reshid, gave impunity to the attackers, many of whom plundered and looted Armenian property.
The killings were carried out under the glare of international publicity, including from missionaries - America was yet to join the war, and dramatic witness accounts of hundreds of people being killed, or even burned alive, appeared in the western press. Photographs show whole valleys littered with skulls.
Armenian historians now claim 1.5 million people were murdered or starved to death in the Syrian deserts .
Asked later how as a doctor he justified his policies, Reshid said: “My Turkish identity won out over my profession. I thought: we must destroy them before they destroy us. If you ask me how I as a doctor could commit murder, my answer is simple: the Armenians had become dangerous microbes in the body of this country.
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NOW, HERE’s WHY THE TURKISH GOVERNMENT DENIES THAT THE TERM “GENOCIDE” APPLIES TO WHAT WAS DONE:
They claim there was NO DELIBERATE ATTEMPT to wipe out the Armenian population, that the move to deport them was a DEFENSIVE position after Armenians sided with Russians in the war, and that as many Turks and other Muslims as Armenian Christians died in the fighting.
Some historians, including western historians, agree, pointing to a recent history of Armenian nationalist and Marxist terrorism against the Ottoman Empire, in which numerous Ottoman officials and even Armenians who sided with the state were killed. They also claim that Russia expelled Turks from areas it conquered - and that many Muslims had also been killed and expelled in the Balkans as the Ottoman empire lost its European possessions like Greece and Bulgaria over the course of the 19th Century.
Everyone on earth has blood on their hands. It’s best to repent and ask for God’s forgiveness and “go and sin no more”.
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You don’t really believe that old leftist propaganda do you?
http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/2012/11/21/the-smallpox-blankets-myth/
Hoax Alert.
No. I see it more as a symbol.
Native Americans were terribly brutal and warring with each other until civilization moved in.
Dangerous microbes in the body of this country. Hmm.
Smallpox blankets aside, some of the folks I am descended from basically built a house on top of the shallow graves of the small tribe of Indians they slaughtered. The people that were living there had the unfortunate circumstance of living on some nice land (now known as Shelter Cove) and not having as many firearms or the willingness to use them as my ancestors did.
That is not leftist propaganda, my FRiend. Family history. And such scenes were repeated countless times from 1607 through the next 300 years.
It's heartening to see that things can change, but it would be nice if a little memory of how things used to be were the catalyst to some soul-searching by the Right.
The Armenian genocide began long before 1915. Here is a report from the genocide in 1895.
http://www.davidcox.com.mx/library/A/Anderson,%20Robert%20-%20The%20Silence%20of%20God%20%28b%29.pdf
Sir Robert Anderson
SIR ROBERT ANDERSON
Secret Service Theologian
THE SILENCE OF GOD
CHAPTER ONE.
Here is a testimony to the Armenian massacres of 1895
“Over 6o,ooo Armenians have been butchered. In Trebizond, Erzeroum, Erzinghian, Hassankaleh, and
numberless other places the Christians were crushed like grapes during the vintage. The frantic mob,
seething and surging in the streets of the cities, swept down upon the defenceless Armenians, plundered
their shops, gutted their houses, then joked and jested with the terrified victims, as cats play with mice.
The rivulets were choked up with corpses; the streams ran red with human blood; the forest glades and
rocky caves were peopled with the dead and dying; among the black ruins of once prosperous villages lay
roasted infants by their mangled mothers’ corpses; pits were dug at night by the wretches destined to fill
them, many of whom, flung in when but lightly wounded, awoke underneath a mountain of clammy
corpses, and vainly wrestled with death and with the dead, who shut them out from light and life for ever.
“A man In Erzeroum, hearing a tumult, and fearing for his children, who were playing in the street, went
out to seek and save them. He was borne down upon by the mob. He pleaded for his life, protesting that
he had always lived in peace with his Moslem neighbours, and sincerely loved them. The statement may
have represented a fact, or it may have been but a plea for pity. The ringleader, however, told him that
that was the proper spirit, and would be condignly rewarded. The man was then stripped, and a chunk of
his flesh cut out of his body, and jestingly offered for sale: ‘Good fresh meat, and dirt cheap,’ exclaimed
some of the crowd. ‘Who’ll buy fine dog’s meat?’ echoed the amused bystanders. The writhing wretch
uttered piercing screams as some of the mob, who had just come from riffing the shops, opened a bottle
and poured vinegar or some acid into the gaping wound. He called on God and man to end his agonies.
But they had only begun. Soon afterwards two little boys came up, the elder crying, ‘Hairik, Hairih
(Father, father), save me! See what they’ve done to me!’ and pointed to his head, from which the blood
was streaming over his handsome face, and down his neck. The younger brother - a child of about three -
was playing with a wooden toy. The agonising man was silent for a second and then, glancing at these his
children, made a frantic but vain effort to snatch a dagger from a Turk by his side. This was the signal for
the renewal of his torments. The bleeding boy was finally dashed with violence against the dying father,
who began to lose strength and consciousness, and the two were then pounded to death where they lay.
The younger child sat near, dabbling his wooden toy in the blood of his father and brother, and looking
up, now through smiles at the prettily dressed Kurds and now through tears at the dust-begrimed thing
that had lately been his father. A slash of a sabre, wound up his short experience of God’s world, and the
crowd turned its attention to others.
“These are but isolated scenes revealed for a brief second by the light, as it were, of a momentary
lightning-flash. The worst cannot be described.”
-Contemporary Review, January, 1896.
The following refers to still more recent horrors :-
“In no place in this region has the attack upon the Christians been more savage than in Egin. Every male
above twelve years of age who could be found was slain. Only one Armenian was found who had been
seen and spared. Many children and boys were laid on their backs and their necks cut like sheep. The
women and children were gathered together in the yard of the Government building and in various places
throughout the town. Turks, Kurds, and soldiers went among these women, selected the fairest, and led
them aside to outrage them. In the village of Pinguan fifteen women threw themselves into the river to
escape dishonour.”
-The Times, December 10, 1896.
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Given out before the knowledge of bacteria and viruses. Disease was thought to be brought on by “bad air”. In the plague years, Londoners lit bonfires to drive off the bad air (Miasma) which was thought to cause the plague.
What’s your point exactly?
That people do bad things? This is true, but it doesn’t mean the smallpox blanket propaganda is true, or that it should be an acceptable thing to be repeating on a conservative site like this. If anyone should be wary of spreading leftist fairy tales on their behalf, it should be us.
Muslim slavers also kidnapped more than a million Europeans from 1500-1800 and made slaves of them. The question: can Europeans sue all those Asians and Muslims for their crimes?
PBS runs a show out here about the Armenian killings about every month. They have yet to do a show on the communists killing 100 million+ people.
Native Americans were terribly brutal and warring with each other until civilization moved in.
LOL, as opposed to our “civilization” where there is no warring and people are nicely brutal to each other?
LOL, as opposed to our “civilization” where there is no warring and people are nicely brutal to each other?
However, there is speculation and some evidence to support that they had a quite advanced and vibrant civilization that was about 90% wiped out by some sort of plague between the time the vikings came across them and the colonization period.
and other stuff:
http://news.discovery.com/history/genocide-native-americans-ethnic-cleansing.htm
This is interesting and links to the “Cracked.com” article that many have read:
The point I was trying to make is simple. This nation does not have what could be called “clean hands” as far as things go with the people that were already living here when a lot of our ancestors showed up.
The smallpox blanket stuff, yeah, its a pile of horseflop. But that does not take away from the other stuff that was actually done.
“This nation does not have what could be called “clean hands” as far as things go with the people that were already living here when a lot of our ancestors showed up.”
Nobody does. Besides, it’s a fallacy to think that one must have “clean hands” before you can speak up about the wrong doings of others. That’s the road to moral equivalency and eventually, no moral standards at all.
Moral equivalency and no moral standards at all?!?!? WTF are you babbling about with that? The topic of this article concerns genocide. So, in your world, the genocide that we committed on the indigenous people of this continent over 300 years is somehow morally superior to the genocide the Turks committed on their Armenian population for two years during a war?
Genocide is genocide sir, and the perpetrators of genocide seem really reluctant to acknowledge that they did it. The first step in honestly dealing with something is acknowledging its existence. The Turks seem really reluctant to do that and a lot of people in this nation seem pretty reluctant to also. I guess there is your moral equivalency...
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