Posted on 03/23/2015 1:17:25 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
So I saw several years of complaints that Obama was born in Kenya. Lets assume he was. His mother is an American citizen; there isn't any dispute there. And, in the minds of those who believe he was born in Kenya, that means he's not eligible to be President.
Lets move to Ted Cruz. He was born in Canada. His father wasn't a US Citizen at the time of his birth. His mother was. So if Obama being born in Kenya supposedly matters, why does Cruz being born in Canada NOT matter?
His father was born in Cuba and came to the U.S. but was not a U.S. citizen. His mother was an American citizen.
The mother and father both moved to Canada where Cruz was born, am I right?...........
So your argument is that because his mother, an American citizen, gave birth to Cruz in Canada, grants Cruz eligibility to run for president?
By golly they must be. They go all the way back to 1787 and re-write something we thought was written in stone, you know, like the age requirement.
I can't wait till congress passes a law that says "35" is now equal to "12." Then we can have Presidents equal to Obama's maturity level.
Not so much old or new as Vattel or English Common Law. Both the notion of “native” in the sense of Vattel — born of citizen parents within country — and the notion of “natural born subject” — subject to the British Crown from birth — could have been the concept the Founders were adapting to the framing of the new Republic with the phrase “natural born citizen”, and precedent now plainly favors the view adapted from English Common Law.
You will lose IQ points by perusing Snopes. It's run by a couple of left wing kooks.
#1 reason, all of 0bama’s records are sealed.
Ted Cruz’s past is available for vetting
Based on my prior observation, how does Cruz’s circumstance differ from Obama’s where his mother, an American citizen, gave birth to him in either Hawaii or Kenya..........for the sake of argument, lets say Kenya?
That’s an important point.
You mean the "Naturalization act of 1790"? Must have been a misnomer how they put the word "naturalization" in it. They should have called it the "Natural Born Citizen Act of 1790", but It's too late now.
This is exactly what I think happened.
You are assuming the mother’s citizenship is all that matters. It isn’t.
“Its pathetic that the nation has been dumbed down to a point where they thing national born and native born are equivalent.”
Actually, it is you, the ignorant, that think there is a difference.
“positive law “
Is there a “negative law”? Seriously, don’t even try to talk like a lawyer. You embarrass yourself.
Speaking of silly trees barking back, you sound like you are still smoking the weed.
Why does Obama have a social security # of a dead guy from Newtown CT.?
Wow you must be desperate for your flame war fix. Sorry to disappoint, I ain’t biting.
The United States Code clarifies who is and who is not a citizen. Period. If you don’t like, tough. It is the law and you aren’t going to change its interpretation.
8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;
(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;
(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and
(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.
I just got a hilarious email about how Canadians are jumping the border into Canada. I sent it to a liberal that I know and she thought it was funny that I sent it to her on the day that Ted Cruz a Canadian, announced his candidacy.
I said , yes isnt this great, Obama was born in Kenya and that didn’t stop him from being elected as president, so now we can have a Candian born president. I didn’t hear a reply from her on that!
“The Obama citizenship ruckus was always a silly ploy by people who think they, not the courts, are the ultimate interpreters of the law.”
Only to you liberals that didn’t like the challenge. Obama, himself, said he was a foreigner. So sit on that and spin.
positive law
Positive laws (Latin: ius positum) are human-made laws that oblige or specify an action. It also describes the establishment of specific rights for an individual or group.
And you use a positive law to assert your position.
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