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Pete Rose petitions commissioner
ESPN.com ^ | 3/16/2015 | Mark Saxon

Posted on 03/16/2015 5:01:01 PM PDT by Beave Meister

GLENDALE, Ariz. -- Major League Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred says he has received a formal request from Pete Rose asking that his lifetime ban be lifted and that he will consider the all-time hits leader's request "on its merits."

"I want to make sure I understand all of the details of the Dowd Report and Commissioner [Bart] Giamatti's decision and the agreement that was ultimately reached," Manfred said after a meeting with Los Angeles Dodgers players in Arizona on Monday morning. "I want to hear what Pete has to say, and I'll make a decision once I've done that."

Rose's previous efforts to gain leniency from commissioners Fay Vincent and Bud Selig were never considered.

Rose, 73, played from 1963 to 1986, amassing 4,256 hits, still a major league record. Three years after he retired, Rose agreed to a permanent ban from baseball amid accusations he gambled on games while playing and managing for the Cincinnati Reds.

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KEYWORDS: athletes; bartgiamatti; baseball; cincinnatireds; dowdreport; espn; halloffame; majorleaguebaseball; mlb; peterose; reds; robmanfred
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To: Dr. Thorne

See post #9.


21 posted on 03/16/2015 5:25:48 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Beave Meister

If Obama adhered to the law, the way Major League Baseball does, there would be no Immigration Crisis.

Sorry Charlie Hustle. You broke the Rules. There are no Participation Trophies in Baseball, nor allowances made for those who break the rules.


22 posted on 03/16/2015 5:27:06 PM PDT by Regal
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To: rstrahan

That’s like arguing that since we have had previous bad presidents it is ok for Obama to allow Iran to have nukes.

When society does not uphold consequences it all turns to crap. Which is what we have.


23 posted on 03/16/2015 5:28:19 PM PDT by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: Beave Meister

Pete Rose is in every thinking fans hall of fame.
Perhaps he should never be able to work in the MLB for what he did.

But his performance as a player was in the top ten of all time. He did not disgrace himself as a player.

Therefore he more that deserves to be in the HOF You can ban him from any future monetary connection with MLB but the HOF ‘IS’ Pete Rose.


24 posted on 03/16/2015 5:29:02 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

Cool story ... I was living in the Cincy area the year he broke the record. As the season went on, it was like a betting on a lottery of buying tickets for the game he would get it. I missed by one day, and saw hit 4,193.


25 posted on 03/16/2015 5:31:41 PM PDT by Free America52 (The White guys are getting pissed off. We beat Hitler Hirohito and Krushchev. Obama will be easy.)
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To: Beave Meister

Did his gambling affect his stats in any way?


26 posted on 03/16/2015 5:32:51 PM PDT by bubbacluck (America 180)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“I bet he gets the band lifted.”

or at least aided.


27 posted on 03/16/2015 5:34:22 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: kosciusko51

Nice deducin’. It’s about baseball. What’s more, it’s about people that no longer play baseball. Who cares?


28 posted on 03/16/2015 5:34:32 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Beave Meister

Put Joe Jackson in the hall of fame, first.


29 posted on 03/16/2015 5:36:47 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Beave Meister

Every baseball fan that is worthy of being called a baseball fan knows about Rose and will pass that on. It doesn’t matter if he will ever get in.

The reason the baseball hall is better than other halls of fame, even for all its flaws, is because they care enough about it enough to not have a rule that requires a minimum number inducted every year. That and things like not inducting Rose only add to the worth of actually getting in. Any other sport/endeavor he would have probably been in a while ago, in my opinion.

Freegards


30 posted on 03/16/2015 5:39:13 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: gundog
Who cares?

Well, Pete Rose for one. I don't care if he gets in, just as long as he fulfills his side of the agreement first.

31 posted on 03/16/2015 5:43:50 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: bubbacluck

No.

Did he know what Rule 21(d) meant? Did he break one of baseballs most sacred rules, Rule 21(d)? Did he know what the consequences were if he broke rule 21 (d)? Did he lie about breaking rule 21(d)? How long did he lie about breaking rule 21(d)?


32 posted on 03/16/2015 5:44:00 PM PDT by Beave Meister (Die Hard Cubs Fan.....if it takes forever.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

He will have to come clean which he should have done originally and he would likely already be forgiven.


33 posted on 03/16/2015 5:44:57 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: kosciusko51

And does something about that haircut.


34 posted on 03/16/2015 5:48:42 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Beave Meister

How about admit the guy to the Hall for his legit accomplishments, but continue to ban him from earning money related to baseball employment? Seems equitable , since his playing career easily earned the spot, whereas his post-player days behavior similarly earned him an employment ban.

FYI, I don’t like the SOB and never have, but his numbers are the stuff of legend. If they let the steroid aholes in, why not Rose?


35 posted on 03/16/2015 5:48:45 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: okie01
I bet on a dog race once in Vegas at the MGM and Pete was doing his radio show from the sports book.

He had a bet on the same race and we stood next to each other and cheered our dogs on.

The guy likes to bet, and kept betting after his expulsion.

I think the new commissioner has the right approach:

"I want to make sure I understand all of the details of the Dowd Report and Commissioner [Bart] Giamatti's decision and the agreement that was ultimately reached," Manfred said after a meeting with Los Angeles Dodgers players in Arizona on Monday morning. "I want to hear what Pete has to say, and I'll make a decision once I've done that."

36 posted on 03/16/2015 5:49:26 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA)
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To: Vaquero

“Therefore he more that deserves to be in the HOF You can ban him from any future monetary connection with MLB but the HOF ‘IS’ Pete Rose.”

Hey, OJ’s in the Hall of Fame, right?

For the record I cannot agree that Rose deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. Unlike murder, criminal vs. baseball, the gambling rule IS all about MLB. Rose knew the rule and the consequences.


37 posted on 03/16/2015 5:51:16 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Beave Meister

We met Bob Feller several times and he would tell you that there are a lot of rules in baseball, but only a handful that are posted in every clubhouse in MLB and gambling is one of them.


38 posted on 03/16/2015 5:52:28 PM PDT by Mean Daddy
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To: Beave Meister
No matter what records Rose holds, he will not be let into the Hall.
He did the one thing you cannot do in baseball. It is the cardinal rule after the Black Sox incident.
You cannot bet on games as a player or coach, ESPECIALLY betting on your own team.
39 posted on 03/16/2015 5:53:00 PM PDT by Wizdum (Who will remove this stone from my shoe?)
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To: Beave Meister

Tell ‘em to go suck canal water, Pete.


40 posted on 03/16/2015 5:53:10 PM PDT by YHAOS
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