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Freeper Warning: Avoid Cobra Firearms
DonPaulJonesII | 03/14/2015 | DonPaulJonesII

Posted on 03/14/2015 5:24:28 PM PDT by DonPaulJonesII

Freepers, please accept this as a warning to avoid purchasing firearms manufactured by Cobra Enterprises of Salt Lake City UT.

I will summarize my experience in the hopes that you will not repeat my experience. In early February 2015 I purchased a Cobra Enterprises Big Bore derringer (CB9) in 9mm. After completing the purchase through my favorite FFL dealer I took my new pistol home only to discover that once loaded the barrels would not lock into firing position. Unable to trouble shoot the problem myself I had to spend $68 to send the pistol back to Cobra Enterprises for repairs. Keep in mind that this had to be done on the same day of purchase.

Five weeks later my pistol was returned to me. Now if this was the extent of my experience I would have let it be but it was not. During the very first time that I loaded and fired the weapon I found, much to my chagrin, that I could not extract the spent casings. No amount of effort succeeded in removing the spent casings.

I try my best to buy American whenever possible but it is my duty to inform the general shooting public that, for whatever reasons, Cobra Enterprise firearms must be avoided at all costs.


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To: Jet Jaguar
Needs the deuce of hearts grip pictured at the top to really complete that 4 card Royal Flush for the full kick in the yamsack feeling you must have.


21 posted on 03/14/2015 5:54:04 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: DonPaulJonesII
It did fire both barrels without issue but no amount of effort, short of using pliers, would remove the casings.

Perhaps a small amount of honing can enlarge the chamber just enough for easier extraction? The chamber should be conical and accurately made, but who would know in a derringer? It's not for long range shooting, and you aren't going to remove more than 0.001" of steel anyway. Here is something to read about the process. It's not like you can make it worse... unless you plan to ship the firearm to the manufacturer again, or to contact a local gunsmith.

22 posted on 03/14/2015 5:54:18 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: DonPaulJonesII
This ugly, innacurate, innefective, cheap weapon

you were going to carry every day

sad cat photo: sad cat sadcat.jpg

I think I will cry now.

23 posted on 03/14/2015 5:55:51 PM PDT by golux
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To: DonPaulJonesII

If you want a gun like that, get one from Bond Arms. Very high build quality and built like a bank vault.


24 posted on 03/14/2015 5:56:26 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: DonPaulJonesII

Aren’t you supposed to use a wooden dowel to remove spent casings?


25 posted on 03/14/2015 5:57:41 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Greysard

I really don’t want to invest any more money into it. Thank you for the information. I have bookmarked the page and will try it.


26 posted on 03/14/2015 5:58:42 PM PDT by DonPaulJonesII (WARNING: Poster does not play well with others!)
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To: DonPaulJonesII

I have a High Standard derringer in .22 Mag and it works fine but the rifled portion of the barrel is so shallow and short that the bullets keyhole at anything beyond a couple of feet. Not a whole lot better than a knife.

It sounds like your chambers need to be polished - can’t imagine the fired brass could stick that hard in the chambers unless they are loaded with tool marks.


27 posted on 03/14/2015 6:00:16 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: fso301

Ha! Had one, broke it. Now I need one. Next moved to the aluminum cleaning rod. Needle nose pliers did the trick.


28 posted on 03/14/2015 6:02:41 PM PDT by DonPaulJonesII (WARNING: Poster does not play well with others!)
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To: DonPaulJonesII

Not sure why anyone would even have a ‘Derringer’ type handgun, except for a paperweight or a conversation piece. People have different tastes I guess.

To me, they are little more than metal toys that happen to fire projectiles. If one is looking for a ‘small’ defensive weapon, get a damn short hammerless revolver in a .357. Ruger makes some good ones.


29 posted on 03/14/2015 6:03:03 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Chainmail

The extractor would move them up but from there they were stuck. The problem seems to be related to the extractor ( I guess). I first tried to remove with a wooden rod which promptly broke. I then inserted an aluminum cleaning rod (with no tip on it) and pushed it against a wall with no luck. I did not want to be too rough with it and break something. Lastly I had luck with a pair of needle nose pliers.


30 posted on 03/14/2015 6:07:39 PM PDT by DonPaulJonesII (WARNING: Poster does not play well with others!)
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To: golux

Too funny. Guess I earned that!


31 posted on 03/14/2015 6:08:27 PM PDT by DonPaulJonesII (WARNING: Poster does not play well with others!)
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To: KoRn
Maybe with the wrist activated rig James West had, that would be cool.


32 posted on 03/14/2015 6:08:31 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: DonPaulJonesII

I looked at one of their other firearms, a Patriot 0.45 ACP. I thought it was a low budget and passed on it.


33 posted on 03/14/2015 6:09:36 PM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: yarddog

“Ravens were good guns.”

Sunrisingly so. I took one on a debt once. It was reliable and accurate. Just too bad it was .25 which is pretty much useless.


34 posted on 03/14/2015 6:13:02 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: yarddog

My first semi-auto was a Jennings .22. It was reliable about 50% of the time, so it quickly found a home in a box.
(My first handgun was a Ruger Single Six, both cylinders.)
I knew a guy who carried a North American .22 mini-revolver, a tiny thing, and that as his main carry gun.
I suppose the tiny size would make it easier for someone with a real gun to take it from him and shove it up his ...

My backup now is a Springfield XDS .45.
If it’s going to be a: “He had a gun, and the other guy had a gun ... “ narrative, and the other guy has a real gun, why would you want to be the guy with a ‘mouse gun’ like a derringer or .22?
Just saying.


35 posted on 03/14/2015 6:13:15 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: yarddog
Destro's quality control must have been lacking on that day.


36 posted on 03/14/2015 6:13:23 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: yarddog

My Raven .25 worked ok.

My Jennings .22 was a jammer.

The worst was a Sterling .22 about 40 years ago.

I got none of them now.


37 posted on 03/14/2015 6:18:47 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: DonPaulJonesII
Hicock45 uses a dowel to extract spent casings.Watch at the 5:50 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJSv9HRioP0

38 posted on 03/14/2015 6:21:43 PM PDT by fso301
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To: DonPaulJonesII

That’s a shame. Whether it was expensive or not, you had every right to expect quality from an American manufacturer.

I’d call or write the manufacturer and demand that they fix it or buy it back. I used to be Vice President of a top rifle telescope company and we always fixed anything our customers were satisfied with.

I always recommend spending as much money as feasible on something your life may depend on. I own an original .32 PPK and it’s pricey but it never, ever fails.


39 posted on 03/14/2015 6:22:08 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: DonPaulJonesII

Need more info.

What caliber?
Shooting factory, non+P ammo?
Do you have the hammer in the half position to load and unload?


40 posted on 03/14/2015 6:22:56 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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