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The paradox of popping back in time
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150216-the-truth-about-movie-time-travel ^

Posted on 02/17/2015 6:11:33 AM PST by BenLurkin

One of the fundamentals that underpins not just physics but every aspect of existence is the law of cause and effect, always in that order. Changing the past would violate that: your actions would affect what caused you to go back in the first place – so if you did manage to kill Hitler he wouldn’t have done what led you to go back and kill him.

That doesn’t stop filmmakers exploring the consequences if you could somehow drop in on history. For Hollywood, applause and special effects are more important than cause and effect, and time travel offers unlimited opportunities to push both imagination and CGI to their limits. Hence screen time machines have included a police box (Dr Who), a phone booth (Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure), a DeLorean sports car (Back to the Future) and a big nudes-only energy ball (Terminator).

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The Time Machine is one of the few sci-fi films to venture into the future, not the past (Rex Features)
1 posted on 02/17/2015 6:11:33 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

The book “The Time Machine” also mentioned killer satellites long before space exploration was a technical possibility.


2 posted on 02/17/2015 6:21:20 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: BenLurkin

Forget cause-and-effect. What about unintended consequences? Perhaps instead of Hitler a more competent strategic and military thinker would’ve been in charge. You would change history alright, but certainly not for the better.


3 posted on 02/17/2015 6:24:44 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: BenLurkin

Edge of Tomorrow was a pretty good recent time travel flick.


4 posted on 02/17/2015 6:27:29 AM PST by mowowie (`)
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To: BenLurkin
Stephen King's novel 11/22/63 takes up the paradox from a slightly different angle. A good read.
5 posted on 02/17/2015 6:29:07 AM PST by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: BenLurkin
Idiocracy went into the future too.


6 posted on 02/17/2015 6:35:49 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: edpc

Knock out Hitler (or Hitler doesn’t invade Eastern Europe) and Stalin/Stalin-Hitler run over Western Europe...

Maybe not in the 1930s, but it happens.


7 posted on 02/17/2015 6:37:43 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: edpc

Take out Karl Marx and save the 20th century much misery.


8 posted on 02/17/2015 6:38:26 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: BenLurkin

just ask Dave Lister about time travel, particularly to 22-nov-1963


9 posted on 02/17/2015 6:41:52 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: BenLurkin

It’s no paradox. It’s an impossibility that some desperately want to believe. The inherent contradictions are called a “paradox”.


10 posted on 02/17/2015 6:51:16 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: I want the USA back

Well, okay...but I still love Doc Brown.


11 posted on 02/17/2015 6:59:17 AM PST by freepertoo
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To: BenLurkin

The future hasn’t happened and the past is gone. We’re the future as it’s happening.


12 posted on 02/17/2015 7:00:47 AM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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To: BenLurkin

In the early 90s, there was a TV movie called “Running Against Time” starring Robert Hayes. He has a brother who was killed in Viet Nam. Hays is a history professor who meets a man who has invented a time machine. He decides to go back to Nov 22, 1963 to prevent the assassination of President Kennedy, thinking that, if Kennedy lived, he would have kept the U.S. out of Viet Nam, and his brother would not have been killed. Hays’ character not only fails to prevent the assassination, but ends up being accused of Kennedy’s murder. Lee Harvey Oswald convinces authorities that he tried to stop the assassination, and ends up becoming a national hero. Hays manages to return to the present day, and makes a second attempt to change history by going back in time with the intention of convincing LBJ to pull us out of Viet Nam. The plan backfires, and LBJ instead becomes convinced to escalate the war.


13 posted on 02/17/2015 7:01:09 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: a fool in paradise
Take out Karl Marx and save the 20th century much misery.

Take out mohammad and save the world centuries of misery.

14 posted on 02/17/2015 7:05:35 AM PST by null and void (People who deny history are trying to recreate it.)
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To: I want the USA back

It would seem to me that one would have to alter the entire cosmos one way or the other. Not just one’s place in it.


15 posted on 02/17/2015 7:06:43 AM PST by onedoug
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To: camle

He never did find a curry house in Dallas.


16 posted on 02/17/2015 7:09:22 AM PST by null and void (People who deny history are trying to recreate it.)
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To: BenLurkin
I realize this is from the UK but how could he forget this show which was all about time travel. True except for one episode IIRC they always traveled into the past but hey nothing said 1960s like a psychedelic tunnel.


17 posted on 02/17/2015 7:10:17 AM PST by xp38
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To: a fool in paradise

Don’t forget his b- buddy Fredrick Engels.


18 posted on 02/17/2015 7:11:23 AM PST by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: GreenHornet
Speaking of TV time travel movies.....this is one of my favorites:

19 posted on 02/17/2015 7:14:54 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: xp38

there were future trips in the time tunnel. one involved a trip to mars via the moon.


20 posted on 02/17/2015 7:15:12 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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