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1 posted on 02/10/2015 6:12:13 PM PST by StevenCrowder
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The Kentucky rifle, a musket, was the most accurate rifle of its day ...


2 posted on 02/10/2015 6:26:07 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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To: StevenCrowder

Need that reminder on occasion.

Multi-barrel guns (2 to 20!) were not uncommon.
The “Puckle Gun” was basically a machine gun well before 1776.
Lewis & Clark took a 20+ shot semi-automatic _air_gun_ equal in force to a modern .45ACP.
A 20-round semi-auto musket was known, if a bit irritating to load.
And then, of course, there were many privately-owned cannons, and the “Letters of Marque” part of the Constitution was to give Congress’ approval to private citizens taking full-blown battleships out to wage war on other countries.

Yeah, the Founding Fathers were well aware they meant ALL weapons, then and future. Anyone arguing to the contrary need have their “freedom of the press” limited to movable-type hand-operated press circa 1776.


3 posted on 02/10/2015 6:27:37 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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Excellent video. Unfortunately, the disarmists do not care about facts.

It may be helpful for those who are merely misinformed, though.


4 posted on 02/10/2015 6:29:08 PM PST by marktwain
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I don’t argue with libs on 2A. You want my firearms? Come get them...yourself.

I can no longer try to reason with ignorant, mentally ill people.


6 posted on 02/10/2015 6:32:50 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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Civilians were always better armed than the average military in the past up till 1956 when the full auto M-14 accepted by the military.
The military was always one step behind.
When the army had flintlock smoothbores, civilians had rifles.
When the army accepted a flintlock rifle the civilians were using percussion cap rifles.
When the Army accepted the percussion cap rifle, civilians were using breach loader rifles.
When the military accepted a breach loading single shot rifle, civilians were using high cap lever action rifles.

When the military accepted their first bolt action rifle, civilians were using lever, slide, semi-auto, bolt action rifles, and experimenting with full auto rifles.


7 posted on 02/10/2015 6:36:20 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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I call my gun “Musket” ...


8 posted on 02/10/2015 6:36:46 PM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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“The powers of the sword, say the minority of Pennsylvania, is in the hands of Congress. My friends and countrymen, it is not so, for the powers of the sword are in the hands of the yeomanry of America from sixteen to sixty. The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible.

Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia.

Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American … the unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.” – Tench Coxe, Pennsylvania Gazette, February 20, 1788

10 posted on 02/10/2015 6:38:12 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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If the Second Amendment refers only to muskets, then it follows that the First Amendment freedom of the press refers only to hand-cranked printing presses.


11 posted on 02/10/2015 6:41:11 PM PST by mkmensinger
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Was the 1st amendment written only for hand-operated, vertical letter presses?


14 posted on 02/10/2015 6:43:06 PM PST by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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Well done


15 posted on 02/10/2015 6:43:40 PM PST by barmag25 (Cruz 2016)
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Well done, Steven.


16 posted on 02/10/2015 6:45:25 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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In other words, the 2nd provided for citizens to be armed equal to the armies of the day. So, I want my military version M4.


20 posted on 02/10/2015 7:02:50 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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A couple of good points to counter such an idiotic argument (2nd Amendment applying to muskets only) the next time you run into a libtard making such an ignorant claim.

First, at the time, everyone had basically the same weapons. Civilian, military, militia - all more or less identical weapons. So if you want to go that route, we civilians should have M-16s, M-60s, etc. Technically we do, in some places that don't infringe your rights, with the right paperwork you can own basically any firearm you can afford and find.

Second, if a libtard is going to argue that the 2nd Amendment be limited by the technology of the day as of it's writing, well then, does that apply to the other parts of the Bill of Rights too? Does that mean any "new" religions founded since then are not protected by the 1st Amendment? Or, does the 1st Amendment only apply to "free speech" from a soapbox in the town square, and not to say, telephones, blogs, e-books, email... Maybe the 3rd Amendment only protects your home if it happens to be a log home and/or be balloon-framed with plaster-on-lathe walls. Maybe the 4th Amendment only applies to papers, not electronic records. (actually there are some idiots arguing exactly that...sigh)

The fundamental lesson many anti-gun libtards need to learn is that a right is a right. It is independent of how it is expressed or realized. Life expectancy has improved from 1776 when it was but about 35 years. Our fundamental right to life doesn't end at 36.

26 posted on 02/10/2015 7:14:14 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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If the Second Amendment only covers muskets, then the First Amendment only covers Gutenberg printing presses.


28 posted on 02/10/2015 7:33:09 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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bump


31 posted on 02/10/2015 7:46:53 PM PST by SteveH
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Here is another way of looking at it ... since those muskets were also the standard US Army infantry weapon of the day, tell the libs that you’ll accept a law that says civilians can own and carry the exact same weapons as US infantry, whatever those weapons happen to be.


32 posted on 02/10/2015 7:47:51 PM PST by Calvin Cooledge
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The founding fathers only meant for the militia to have single shot muskets. The rest of us should be able to own whatever we want.


37 posted on 02/10/2015 9:05:37 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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GATLING Guns and fully auto WWI machine guns [heavy] were legal in 1918 for ownership by citizens up til 1922 til the govt used the excuse that they might be stolen by criminals to rob banks......duuhhhh- leeme see that`s 1775-1922 =hmmm 33 carry the 1 = 147 years then it`s illegal- ??? This is crap!!!

After WWI the War Dept sent all of the American Legion posts in 1920`s working German machine guns.

WW2 GI`s shipped home German/Japanese mortars, machine guns, flame throwers, pistols to their parents thru the US MAIL as souvenirs til 1946 when the govt ssaid “illegal!”— [guess] “they might be stolen by criminals to rob banks”

viz

LEGION GETS MACHINE GUN AND RIFLE

The Lake George Post of the American Legion has-received from the government a German machine gun and a German Mauser rifle.
Ticonderoga Sentinel , Apr-June 1926

ELIZABETHTOWN
—Frank A. Stevens has received numerous souvenirs from his son, Durand, who is a Sergeant attached to the Signal Corps in the South-west Pacific. They consist of shell and woods and money; a flame thrower; a flag; a telephone, and many other items of interest.”
‘Essex County Republican’ Mar 3, 1944, p1

“Crown Point Soldier Sends Souvenirs Home-
Pfc. Roy S. Marsha , son of Mr. & Mrs. George Marsh, Crown Point, has sent a German pack, Italian bayonet, two Italian knives, with fascist insignia on the case, an Italian pistol, ...” Essex County Republican. 1945


40 posted on 02/10/2015 9:20:08 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (re (`("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")))
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Most Cannons used by the Patriots were Privately owned.

Do Liberals advocate everyone owning a Cannon?
If so, count me in.


42 posted on 02/10/2015 9:27:56 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (If you think the Mulatto Marxist is bad, just wait until the Menopausal Marxist shows up.)
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Yeah and the 1st amendment does not apply to computer generated communications.

And the 4th amendment doesn't apply to the search and seizure of any technology invented after 1780.

This musket argument is just so very dumb on the surface.

46 posted on 02/10/2015 10:06:42 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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