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Campers: Do They Make Good Bug Out Vehicles?
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Posted on 02/10/2015 2:25:33 PM PST by Responsibility2nd

There is not a simple answer to the question. Much depends on your situation, your familiarity with campers, geography and type of crisis you would be dealing with. Type of campers would include motor homes, travel trailers and truck campers.

When people think of bug-out-vehicles (BOV) they think of a vehicle that can get them out of a dangerous area quickly. The vehicle is packed with emergency essentials and is ready to go at a moment’s notice. Bugging-out signifies haste, leaving an area that has become hostile, and that means leaving by the fastest and safest means possible, does a travel trailer or motor home fit that description. You can decide that based on a multitude of factors.

If your home was destroyed by some type of a disaster and you had a camper/motor home then you have shelter. However, if the disaster has not struck yet, but if one forecasted or predicted and you feel you would have to bug-out, would you jump in your camper. If you did, would you be able to get clear of the area driving a motor home or pulling a trailer, versus simply getting in your vehicle or setting out on foot, this is the question you need to answer, and can you answer it before a disaster strikes.

Considerations

If you have a travel trailer, this means you need a vehicle capable of pulling the trailer, and keep in mind during a crisis you would probably overload the trailer, which in turn would put more stress on the vehicle pulling it. Tires, engine and transmission all would be under more stress.

Water and fuel alone would take up considerable weight and then there is food, generators, clothing and other essentials, and because of the space, available people would tend to pack more. If you could not leave well ahead of others that are fleeing, you may find the highways are gridlocked, and you would essentially be trapped with all of your supplies in one place.

On the other hand, if you managed to get out of the urban area, you now have a shelter for when you arrive at your bug-location. You do have one of course, or do you plan to pull into a rest stop or camping area, during a crisis.

Rest areas and campsites would be overwhelmed in most cases by others doing just what you are doing and of course looters, and other criminals will go where the valuables are. If the crisis were, a natural disaster, campsites and rest areas may not be ideal places for sheltering.

How would you refuel, if you did manage to get to a bug-out location or any safe haven? You can carry fuel with you but the amounts would be limited. You simply cannot end up somewhere without the ability to leave that area at some point, and have to leave your home essentially and all of your supplies behind.

Truck campers would be better suited as a bug-out vehicle, because they are self-contained but you are limited on space. However, you would have more storage space than a typical vehicle. The truck camper would provide you with shelter, and they can be maneuvered around obstacles much easier than a motor home or travel trailer being towed. Of course, as with a motor home or travel trailer, they would be obvious targets for looters and others.

Campers or motor homes would be ideal for off grid living and in some situations could be used during a crisis if they were set up before the disaster struck. A camper would be the same as having a shelter built at your bug-out-location. Of course, you need a location that is remote and one you had access to at all times, in other words, you would have to own it to ensure you would not be uprooted in the middle of a crisis. Even if you did own a piece of property there are no guarantees you would be able to hang on to it during certain situations.

One of the advantages of having a camper is storage, in particular storage of safe drinking water. This is provided you filled the tank(s) from a clean source. You would need water hoses rated for drinking water and you would have to know the source is safe. Filling the tanks with contaminated water means the water would have to be drained and then the tank(s) sanitized properly and this would take large amounts of clean water.

Mobility would be a problem with any type of camper, so taking to the open roads for any substantial distance would be problematic. You would need more fuel for the towing vehicle, than you would otherwise need when it was not towing a trailer and fuel for the motor home. This could become a problem one that could not be solved easily if at all during some situations.

You may be forced to abandon your camper at some point and if so you would need a vehicle so having a travel trailer would have its advantages over a motor home, because you can unhook the towing vehicle. A pickup camper would make the most sense but you would have to consider its downfalls as well.


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To: Responsibility2nd

81 posted on 02/10/2015 4:33:49 PM PST by Hatteras
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To: Alberta's Child

I’m a EE. I do power engineering.

The problem with EMP is that it hits generators and transformers the hardest, and it hits them so fast that you can’t isolate them.

EMP, put as simply as I can, is when gamma radiation knocks electrons out of the upper atmostphere. It’s like taking a hammer to a brace in a coal mine - the coal dust just creates clouds of dust.

This gamma ‘hammer’ shakes so many electrons loose, and lenses it toward earth, and it all gets picked up by long conductors.

The current it generates melts the windings of transformers and generators. Solid state electronics doesn’t stand a chance. Faraday cages are the only thing that protects against EMP. Some underground parking garages will work, given that the rebar acts almost exactly like a faraday cage.

Anyway, the transformers used in the Atlantic and Pacific grids aren’t made in the US. They are made in Korea. Some in Japan.

We don’t keep spares for that sort of part. They are massive. They are hauled by trains, for the most part. Those trains are diesel electric. They won’t work either, even if you had the spares to do the job.

Unless it was made using the old tube technology, the electronics won’t work.

EMP actually has three parts to it. M1, M2, and M3. M3 is the ‘long tail’ that happens after a nuke blast is what really degrades transmission infrastructure.

Semiconductor rectifiers? They are definitely toast. They make the DC electricity go wavy (AC) so you can transmit it without much loss.

If it is made with semiconductors, its toast (M1 will do it in).

Believe it. EMP would probably kill up to 80 percent of the US population in 12 months. What would end up happening is the reversion of the ecology to its environmental limit (the max number of plant and animal species that can be supported on a given piece of land).

In cities, we artificially suspend the law of environmental limit by using JIT delivery of food that allows us to live on top of one another, like bees live in a hive.

(See Operation Fishbowl)

The Soviets found out about this before we did. Fishbowl was when we tested it and really documented it.


82 posted on 02/10/2015 4:35:52 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Sparticus
That thing was parked in a little lot along Cahuenga, in the pass between Universal City and Hollywood for years and years. Maybe in the last five years it disappeared.


83 posted on 02/10/2015 4:38:09 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Yosemitest

Just saw on news this morning that the news car that have GPS and UConnec, Blue Tooth, can be hacked and controlled, stolen, tracked, etc.


84 posted on 02/10/2015 4:42:51 PM PST by Engedi
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To: Secret Agent Man

Though the author was talkin’ campers. I think a floating home is the superior choice: checkpoints...borders...battalions....murderous bands of roving pillagers.....all avoided or rendered less effective on a personal, moveable island. One can be bound for the Azores as the first SH’sTF.
And, of course, practicing with the escape pod is a lot of fun.


85 posted on 02/10/2015 4:49:15 PM PST by dasboot
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To: TexasCajun

Another “bug-out” bug ;)


86 posted on 02/10/2015 4:55:00 PM PST by Sivad (NorCal red turf ;-))
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To: Responsibility2nd
We got one heavily armed recreational vehicle here.

EM50 Urban Assault Vehicle

87 posted on 02/10/2015 4:56:22 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: dasboot

sorry didn’t realize you brought up the boat in 17. the way you dexcribed it i thought you meant one in the backyard looking unappealing.

military boats would investigate your boat for supplies and anything useful. same with boats taken over by thugs.


88 posted on 02/10/2015 5:08:14 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

M4L


89 posted on 02/10/2015 5:14:06 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s /s /s /s /s, my replies are "liberally" sprinkled with them behind every word and letter.!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

90 posted on 02/10/2015 5:15:05 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Unimog.


91 posted on 02/10/2015 5:20:50 PM PST by smoky415 (Follow the money)
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To: TexasCajun

There ya go. That’s the one. :-)


92 posted on 02/10/2015 5:21:41 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: smoky415

Unimog 404 1968 model and it is EMP proof.


93 posted on 02/10/2015 5:27:59 PM PST by smoky415 (Follow the money)
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To: RinaseaofDs
Faraday cage = tin foil


94 posted on 02/10/2015 5:30:58 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I listened to the Gun Guy Radio show yesterday and they talked about this company. They interviewed one of the guys who works there, and they’re planning to build their vehicles on platforms all the way up to the Ford F-750.


95 posted on 02/10/2015 5:37:13 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Vote fraud solution: Stake, Rope, Sugar and Bullet Ants.)
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To: smoky415

Better yet , ebay has a 1998 M1079 fo 30k that has 481 original miles.


96 posted on 02/10/2015 5:37:33 PM PST by smoky415 (Follow the money)
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To: Responsibility2nd

97 posted on 02/10/2015 5:38:33 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: dasboot

sssshhhhhh! let everyone run into the hills and look for deer.


98 posted on 02/10/2015 5:50:46 PM PST by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: dasboot
Our 40 ft Yorktown just came out of the yard and is ready to go. 😍
99 posted on 02/10/2015 5:58:25 PM PST by sheana
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To: RinaseaofDs

A former coworker of mine bought that Toyota thing that looks like a bug-out vehicle...and for that purpose.

I informed him that being a 2012 (or so) model year it won’t hold up to well against an EMP. He said “whoops”.


100 posted on 02/10/2015 6:15:15 PM PST by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win.)
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