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Lesbian sex, seduction and murder... by NUNS in a Catholic convent
Daily Mail ^ | 17th January 2014 | Jenny Stanton

Posted on 01/17/2015 7:24:31 AM PST by the scotsman

'A sordid tale of lesbian sex, murder and seduction in a Catholic convent in 19th-century Rome has been discovered in a secret Vatican archive.

The Sant'Ambrogio scandal involves a beautiful young sister who convinced the nuns she was experiencing visions and visits from heaven - then made them engage in rampant sexual activity.

Herbert Wolf, a leading scholar of the Catholic Church, learned of the Sant'Ambrogio scandal when he became one of the first allowed into the archives of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

The naughty nun also entered into an erotic relationship with a theologian on the pretense he was possessed, and is thought to have murdered three other sisters.

But when a German princess fled the convent in disgust, a sex scandal hidden behind a habit for many years was unveiled.

Wolf, a professor of ecclesiastical his­tory at University of Muenster, Germany, made the discovery and has retold it in his book The Nuns of Sant'Ambrogio.

Written in German, the controversial never-told-before tale has been translated into English for the first time.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: 9thLife
The article was soundly discredited about a month after it appeared.

And Protestantism is discredited on these very FR pages by Catholics every day.

There MUST be a point in here; somewhere...

81 posted on 01/18/2015 4:29:22 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Syncro
Which begs the question, can women be eunuchs?

What would Joseph call Mary?

82 posted on 01/18/2015 4:30:21 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
...who convinced the nuns she was experiencing visions and visits from heaven...

Was she from Portugal?

83 posted on 01/18/2015 4:31:09 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

This really ought to be in Religion rather than being in General/Chat like a “tabloid.”

Understanding situations in which worship has gone wrong (and surely this is an example) “may” be helpful in understanding worship that is right. The way the bible portrays the good, the bad, and the ugly of the conduct of God’s people bears this out. It is also amazing to realize how faithful God stays in the face of such woeful misconduct. If this was about the honor of men, this would never be.


84 posted on 01/18/2015 4:32:05 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Personally I doubt He ever was married, but the Bible simply does not address the issue.

The bible doesn't 'address' a LOT of things; but hasn't stopped the church from filling in the blanks.

85 posted on 01/18/2015 4:32:09 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
And with this smile you've put on my face; I'll now get ready for church.

See y'all later today....

86 posted on 01/18/2015 4:33:10 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; Mrs. Don-o

The forum under which this appears has a lot to do with the context. Why is this not under Religion.

Also it might not be precisely biblical, but there is an adage about throwing stones in glass houses. I wish the evangelical segment of Christendom was scandal free. I’m sure God wishes the same thing.


87 posted on 01/18/2015 4:36:28 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Elsie

This was the dear abbey situation. Not the one that leads up this thread.


88 posted on 01/18/2015 4:39:32 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Elsie

A virgin... but the only virginity she swore herself to was virginity awaiting marriage, as any honorable maiden in her situation would.

Eunuchs makes sense in the passage as a metaphor for renouncing marriage, which would be possible for either gender. Even enemies of Christianity usually concede this, given a lack of history of doing it any other way.


89 posted on 01/18/2015 4:45:17 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Henry Hnyellar

You could say the same of food? No you can’t. Food is morally inert. WHAT are you trying to justify?


90 posted on 01/18/2015 5:03:42 AM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: daniel1212

But what movie? There’s no link.


91 posted on 01/18/2015 6:40:59 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (When I grow up, I'm gonna settle down, chew honeycomb & drive a tractor, grow things in the ground.)
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To: Elsie

Only if you believe a particular church is inspired to fill in the blanks. Which I don’t.


92 posted on 01/18/2015 8:18:16 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Gamecock
No, 150 years isn't too far back to discuss, if you're talking ecclesiastical heritage, doctrine, , genealogy, intellectual history, mores and manners. These things can be edifying, building up the Body of Christ.

"Lesbians and murders in convents" is tabloid trash which tends not to teach but to titillate. What or whom does it serve to read this shameful filth? It would be easy to find filth on Protestants --- and NOT because Protestants are particularly filthy (much the contrary, I think) but because it can be found a websites of those who scorn the Lord Jesus. Lots of linkable, clickable crap at atheist websites, but, interestingly, not at Catholic ones.

If I were to dredge about those scandal-mongering sites to expose Calvinist clergy wife-beaters, Evangelical pastor child-stranglers, house-church deacons doing incest with their daughters (there was a notorious one in my hometown) and Baptist preacher whoremongers (and I could name one right here in the city from which I wrote) --- but I would not do so. If I did, I would be afterwards ashamed of rash-judgment and detraction, and would have to examine my conscience to discern and detest my sin against fraternal charity.

93 posted on 01/18/2015 9:05:09 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (When I grow up, I'm gonna settle down, chew honeycomb & drive a tractor, grow things in the ground.)
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To: jimt

Thank you.


94 posted on 01/18/2015 9:11:31 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (When I grow up, I'm gonna settle down, chew honeycomb & drive a tractor, grow things in the ground.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“Would we do this to the Jews?”

It’s done to Mormons three times a week. Deal with it.


95 posted on 01/18/2015 9:16:26 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: BlueDragon; miss marmelstein; pax_et_bonum; 9thLife; Oberon; BunnySlippers; PGR88; Albion Wilde; ...
Forbes: Why That Story About Irish Babies In A Septic Tank Is A Hoax (LINK)

This is worth a read, the article and especially the comments. In the above link, as in this matter of "19th Century Lesbian Convent Murders," those who participate make the whole place smell like the National Perspirer and do the devil's work by pulling people down into scandals.

No wonder our political FReeper brethren rarely come to the Religion Forum. No wonder we can't even recommend that our own families or fellow parishioners join us here online. It's because the Religion Forum is the nastiest neighborhood in this our Free Republic.

There are even better reasons why "rash judgment," "detraction," "calumny," scandal-mongering," "revilement," and "malicious talk" are listed as sins in the Scriptures.

A little more immersion in the Gospels, and --- in particular --- the Epistle of St. James, should leave one adequately instructed and reproved.

But I will end with St. Paul:

2 Timothy 2:23-26 -
Have nothing to do with stupid and senseless controversies;
you know that they breed quarrels.
And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome
but kindly to everyone,
an apt teacher, patient,
correcting opponents with gentleness.
God may perhaps grant that they will repent
and come to know the truth,
and that they may escape from the snare of the devil,
having been held captive by him to do his will.

96 posted on 01/18/2015 9:48:41 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (As it is written: "The Name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you." - Romans 2:24)
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To: don-o

#96


97 posted on 01/18/2015 9:49:19 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (As it is written: "The Name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you." - Romans 2:24)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

***It’s because the Religion Forum is the nastiest neighborhood in this our Free Republic.***

The fact that constant, day-in-and-day-out Catholic bashing is allowed is why I no longer financially support FR.


98 posted on 01/18/2015 9:59:17 AM PST by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed "Elderly Kooky Type" Catholic Texan)
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To: BenLurkin

+1


99 posted on 01/18/2015 10:11:16 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
But what movie? There’s no link.

Hmm. You are right. Must have messed up the html. No Greater Love

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100 posted on 01/18/2015 10:14:30 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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