Posted on 01/17/2015 7:24:31 AM PST by the scotsman
'A sordid tale of lesbian sex, murder and seduction in a Catholic convent in 19th-century Rome has been discovered in a secret Vatican archive.
The Sant'Ambrogio scandal involves a beautiful young sister who convinced the nuns she was experiencing visions and visits from heaven - then made them engage in rampant sexual activity.
Herbert Wolf, a leading scholar of the Catholic Church, learned of the Sant'Ambrogio scandal when he became one of the first allowed into the archives of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
The naughty nun also entered into an erotic relationship with a theologian on the pretense he was possessed, and is thought to have murdered three other sisters.
But when a German princess fled the convent in disgust, a sex scandal hidden behind a habit for many years was unveiled.
Wolf, a professor of ecclesiastical history at University of Muenster, Germany, made the discovery and has retold it in his book The Nuns of Sant'Ambrogio.
Written in German, the controversial never-told-before tale has been translated into English for the first time.'
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
New Title: The one about WHY MARXISTS IN THE CHURCH AGITATE FOR COERCED CHARITY
Well, the Sisters of Charity of Leavenworth officially jumped the ol' shark and have declared according to their own pagan magisterium that abortifacients are just fine with them.
Here's the citation from the Topeka Capital Journal.
Now, you may be thinking that a little cabal of nuns in Leavenworth, Kansas is no big shakes, right? Wrong. This is a MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR business concern, and this example perfectly demonstrates what I and so many others (such as Karl Denninger) have been saying about the evil incestuous problem with the Marxist-infiltrators of the Church and how they have intentionally pushed for government takeover of the care of the sick and the poor.
First, here is a URL documenting the Sisters of Charity of Leavenworth Healthcare System's (SCLHS) size:
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20120417006805/en/Fitch-Affirms-Sisters-Charity-Leavenworth-Revs-AA-
Fitch rates their bonds as AA-. Yes, that's right. They have a Fitch rating. Um, is it just me, or does that seem . . . wrong somehow?
Yeah. So, one more time for those of you who might be new or still haven't figured this out yet. The Marxist infiltrators of the Catholic Church have specifically and consciously pushed for the government takeover of pretty much all charitable functions that WERE the domain of the Church - hence the traitorous alliance with the "democrat" party in the United States.
In doing this, these traitors to Our Lord have essentially used the power of the State to enforce a "mandatory tithe", coercing every earner in the United States through the Internal Revenue Service, regardless of religious affiliation or personal preference, to pay for the services that the Church SHOULD be paying for, but has ABANDONED. That's right. The Church has almost totally abandoned caring for the sick and the poor. Now what we have are these massive for-profit outfits like the SCLHS which are for-profit middle-men who bill everything that would have formerly been "charity" to the United States government - while still trying to lord "moral authority" over everyone else by falsely claiming to be "the Church."
Aside from this being pure evil, the result is a mathematical inevitability: a Ponzi scheme doomed to collapse and failure. But then, that is exactly what the Marxists were driving toward - total systemic collapse leading to the Marxist oligarchs taking complete totalitarian control of the former United States, and then the entire world. The Church has been infiltrated and used as a stooge to push state control of healthcare, care of the poor and the elderly.
The point of the Marxists specifically recruiting homosexualists into the clergy is playing out before our very eyes right now. First, the homosexualists were charged with degrading and draining the Church of its capacity to preach the Gospel, and eventually to have the Church become operationally Marxist itself. The final step in this process has already begun, namely schisming the Church and forming an "American Catholic Church", which will be a neo-pagan Marxist "Revolutionary church" and will operate as a client and front for the Marxist regime in Washington D.C.
The SCLHS is a perfect example of this. First, they want the billion-dollar gravy train to keep flowing and so they will support the Marxist regime to the very end, because the thought of them actually cutting into their TEN-FIGURE portfolio to actually, you know, PAY for healthcare for the poor in a Christ-like spirit of true charity is utterly beyond their comprehension. Are we surprised, given that they approve of killing innocent babies?
Second, since the SCLHS is almost entirely comprised of lesbians, they WANT the Church to schism and they want to form an "American Catholic Church" that will ratify and celebrate their psychosexual perversions, ordain them as priestesses, and then let those "priestesses" MARRY and engage in sodomite acts. They need statist intervention in order to make this happen, and that is EXACTLY what they are getting. The Obama regime has declared war on the Bride of Christ, and is erecting the frame of the "Revolutionary church".
So, at the end of the day, it is all about the love of money, and perverted sex.
People, there is NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN.
Finally, one more time, CHARITY and COERCION are absolutely, totally, completely 100% MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. The moment that even the slightest HINT of coercion enters into the picture, charity is DESTROYED. Gone. Adios.
Love (caritas) MUST be freely given. It HAS to be a free choice of the giver. Putting the gun and jackboot of the IRS to people's heads and necks BY DEFINITION exterminates charity. Apparently, every jackass bishop in the Western World today is either too stupid or too Marxist to comprehend or acknowledge this utterly fundamental truth.
ANY bishop who crows on and on and waxes philosophical about the state's NECESSARY role in healthcare, care of the poor or care of the elderly is a heretical jackass who needs to sit down, shut up, beg God's forgiveness for being a Marxist jackass, and then beg the Holy Spirit for a modicum of intelligence and understanding of simple, obvious truths.
Christ charged THE CHURCH with caring for the sick, poor and elderly - IN CHARITY, meaning that the Church FREELY GIVES, beginning with the FREELY GIVEN tithes of the individual faithful, and then FREELY GIVEN by the Church itself to the poor, sick and elderly.
This system worked beautifully up until 50 years ago, when the Marxist-homosexualists took over. Not only did it work, but there was even enough money to build BEAUTIFUL churches. Now the Church pays for none of these things out of its own coffers, and instead money is spent on building butt-ugly churches. There is a relatively new parish here in the Denver metro area for which the rectory - that is the priest's house - cost $800,000. Apparently this priest felt that he "deserved" to be rewarded with an $800,000 pad. Meanwhile, at the Latin Mass parish I attend, the priests live in a small, old house, and donate their $13,000 per year salaries back to the parish. That's telling, don't you think?
These Novus Ordo clergy and religious are TERRIFIED at the thought of being held to the charge and discipline of the pre-Vatican II Church and actually having to spend tithe revenue on CHARITY and embrace poverty themselves, and they will schism the Church before they turn loose of their government coerced ObamaCare/Medicare/Medicaid/SocialSecurity/Welfare gravy train.
Not a hoax, just the usual media sensationalism, the 3 year investigation that is just being launched by the Irish government will sort out the details of that home's 800 infant deaths and other homes during the period of 1922 through 1998.
That was a heck of a movie, dark, dark, dark.
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Do you still beat your wife?
It's an empty accusation, pure slander, and anyone with an IQ over 50 should know it.
But alas, human nature: people believe what the want to, and consider it proof if the media says it.
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Your post doesn’t make any sense (beating your wife again?), and there has not been an investigation yet, the three year investigation will only be starting soon.
Read post 42 again.
But it's much easier to believe what they tell you, isn't it?
Did you even read post 42?
We don’t know the facts yet and won’t, until this is investigated.
A three year investigation that hasn’t even started yet.
Neither Judaism nor Christianity (sans Catholicism) force celibacy on those in particular ministries.
Nor do they have nuns.
So the question is moot.
Scripture does speak to this:
Matt 19:12 "For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let the one who is able to receive this receive it."I guess the words I put in bold give Catholicism an out.
Which begs the question, can women be eunuchs?
You don’t understand it.
But you don’t want to hear about it.
And you reject it.
But you can’t stop commenting on it.
And, of course, you ignore the lives of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of happy, holy religious and priests, many of whom have been saints who healed the sick and raised the dead.
No. No. It’s all “legalism.”
What is notable in this tale is that the Vatican ACTED. They suppressed the convent and imprisoned the guilty.
Meanwhile, Rembert Weakland, Joseph Bernardin, Matthew Clark, Howard Hubbard, Robert Adonis Lynch, Donna Wuerl, etc., etc., etc....
It is not true then it should not be here regardless, but the Catholic protest is rather self righteous as RCs incessantly use FR for their elitists one true church, and like liberals demand special rights, crying to the owner when offended (who has better things to do), while attacking those without it, with some stating Prots have not faith in no Christ at all, are completely biblically illiterate (one even called the KJV a Mickey mouse Bible), and which should be eradicated from the face of the earth, and affirm the Inquisition in killing souls such as us as heretics (and indeed the pope mandated RC rulers to exterminate the heretics, and some here take that to heart), besides parroting misrepresentations about Prot. faith or leaders.
“The Sant’Ambrogio scandal involves a beautiful young sister who convinced the nuns she was experiencing visions and visits from heaven - then made them engage in rampant sexual activity. “
Wait. It was said here many times that the problems weren’t homosexual in nature, but pedophiles. This can’t possibly be true!
As you know, sex is a double edged sword - one edge, pro-creation, is good and the other edge temptation, causes a lot of people a lot of damage.
An argument from silence at best.
Personally I doubt He ever was married, but the Bible simply does not address the issue.
You seem to want more respectful relations between Protestants and Catholics --- as do I ---- but you don't seem to know what helps that, and what harms it.
As for Catholics who say evil things about Protestants , that
"Prots have not faith in no Christ at all, are completely biblically illiterate (one even called the KJV a Mickey mouse Bible), and which should be eradicated from the face of the earth, and affirm the Inquisition in killing souls such as us as heretics (and indeed the pope mandated RC rulers to exterminate the heretics, and some here take that to heart), besides parroting misrepresentations about Prot. faith or leaders"
... tell me who they are, and I'll go after them hammer and tongs. You know I will.
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