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Observatory Hell from the 86th Floor of Empire State Building

Posted on 12/28/2014 9:57:26 AM PST by SamAdams76

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To: SamAdams76
Well told, thanks. I was up there in the middle '80s, and there was no hassle at all. No lines, no security to speak of, maybe a guy in a uniform sitting at a desk. I don't think we even had to buy tickets.

The only disappointment was it was kinda rainy, so we couldn't go outside onto the deck. But it was pretty much floor to ceiling glass, so we could still see out over the city. There was a bank of pay phones up there at the time, so it was pretty cool to be able to call my mom from the top of the Empire State Building.

21 posted on 12/28/2014 10:22:45 AM PST by real saxophonist (Spam, Spam, Spam, Bacon, and Spam. Extra Bacon.)
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To: SamAdams76

The Empire State Building. Nobody goes there anymore, it’s too crowded.


22 posted on 12/28/2014 10:25:59 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: SamAdams76

It was in the mid-90’s last time I went up to the observation deck of the Empire State Building. My experience then was in most ways very different. I was struck by the red hanging banners with which the ground floor lobby was festooned; combined with the large posters and the grand architecture, my first reaction was that it looked like some alternate reality Nazi Germany from the original Star Trek television series. Quite beautiful but somehow ... fascist.

There was little in the way of a line until the 80th floor elevator switch, and even then it wasn’t really all that bad. The view was nice, quite breezy up there with the wind blowing up. I was informed that in past, less enlightened days, people would toss handkerchiefs and such off to watch it come wafting back. Not anymore with the security fencing, the building attracts nuts.

The budding behavior to match the graphics was on display at the restrooms, though. Chunky, rude ethnic women in too-tight blue uniforms barking orders to the tremendous line, single file, men and women all lined up together. Men’s room, women’s room, didn’t matter. A toilet in any of them became unoccupied, in went the next person. So very fair for men to have to wait just as long as women, you see.

All in all I enjoyed it since I love architecture. The old setup for dirigibles was fascinating although I can’t imagine coming off a passenger blimp tied to the top of a building of that height and marching down some sort of ramp that no doubt would have been shifting in the ever-present wind. But, I hated the mentality of the people running the show. I see it’s only gotten worse.

In all honesty, I’d have enjoyed seeing the Chrysler Building more, up close and from a similar vantage point, but to my knowledge that was not possible.


23 posted on 12/28/2014 10:27:41 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: SamAdams76

From experience, which informed me on more than one occasion that “I should have known better”, I have not much sympathy for bad experiences of people trying to go places in Manhattan where so many tourists want to go.

Symbols like the Empire State Building reflect very little of what Manhattan as whole is really like, for living or otherwise. Yes the view is great, but its better and more worth the expense from a helicopter tour.

I always tell visiting tourists that to see and enjoy Manhattan well, simply avoid anything, other than Broadway Shows, if it’s located between 34th & 59th Street and between 9th and 5th Avenue. Not even a single one of the best restaurants in town are located there.


24 posted on 12/28/2014 10:28:52 AM PST by Wuli
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To: cripplecreek

There are certain remote places out west where, given enough money, I’d build my enclave and watch the river roll by for the rest of my days.


25 posted on 12/28/2014 10:31:50 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: real saxophonist
There was a bank of pay phones up there at the time, so it was pretty cool to be able to call my mom from the top of the Empire State Building.

Hmmm. Put those back in, add a cell phone jammer to force their use and charge $20 to make a 2 minute phone call.

26 posted on 12/28/2014 10:33:08 AM PST by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: doorgunner69
Why people choose to live in an anthill is a mystery.

Some people would live nowhere else. I've been exposed to both country and city living so I can see the upsides of both (as well as the downsides).

I think what appeals to city dwellers is the fact that everything they could every want is close at hand - well, maybe except for space and privacy.

27 posted on 12/28/2014 10:34:13 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Riley
You have to drive miles of dirt roads to get where I like to be


28 posted on 12/28/2014 10:34:34 AM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: eartrumpet
There was a Japanese man on the deck who approached me with his camera and a big smile and wanted me to take his picture.

Never give your camera to someone else to take your picture, especially if there are naked pictures of your wife already on the camera.

29 posted on 12/28/2014 10:34:36 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away)
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To: Reagan80

Definitely Christmas week had a lot to do with the crowds. A lot of people are in town for the New Year’s Eve celebration. Now that’s one night I would rather not be in NYC!


30 posted on 12/28/2014 10:35:49 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

I thought of this when I saw your headline: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Empire_State_Building_shooting


31 posted on 12/28/2014 10:36:05 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: SamAdams76

FUNYC


32 posted on 12/28/2014 10:37:07 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Black lies matter.)
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To: SamAdams76

Went to the 86th & 102nd floors at 13 in 1963. I can still remember PanAm helicopters ferrying passengers across at the PanAm Building. What’s that called these days?


33 posted on 12/28/2014 10:38:47 AM PST by onedoug
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To: SamAdams76

Paternal Grandfather took me to NYC back when I was 12 or 13, so end of The Fifties. Had a blast! Had my first beer with Grandpa. I discovered that I didn’t like heights while at the observatory, later reaffirmed at the parachute drop on Coney Island!


34 posted on 12/28/2014 10:38:53 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: SamAdams76
There was practically no security and we pretty much pushed a button on an elevator to take us up...No muss no fuss.


35 posted on 12/28/2014 10:38:56 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: SamAdams76

I don’t know what to say to this. Go to NYC at Christmas time and be outraged by lines. Also outraged that once you get below Macy’s, the area looks seedy. It’s always looked seedy (old buildings, Korean businesses). It picks up again in Chelsea.


36 posted on 12/28/2014 10:39:35 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: miss marmelstein

No kidding. It will be under control in a couple of weeks.


37 posted on 12/28/2014 10:41:36 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: Calvin Locke
I don't remember what I paid in the 1980s but it couldn't have been that much. That's because my new wife and I didn't have a lot of money back then and everything we did in NYC was on a tight budget. That's why we chose to walk 30 blocks at a time rather than take a cab! Even the shows we saw were matinee performances. At night, we'd walk around Times Square and people watch, while getting 99 cent slices of pizza and hot dogs.

I forget the hotel we stayed at but it was something along the lines of a Best Western. There were mice. But we didn't care, we were in our mid-20s and the whole trip was an adventure for us.

38 posted on 12/28/2014 10:42:10 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: cripplecreek

Because there are shows, museums, points of interest. You should try it sometime.


39 posted on 12/28/2014 10:43:29 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: Ted Grant

Smart people know to keep out of Manhattan Christmas through New Years. It’s a zoo. Smart NYers avoid midtown during the same time or make sure they travel by train. A good guide book will warn about the Christmas season.

And try London if you think New York City tourist “traps” are expensive!


40 posted on 12/28/2014 10:45:36 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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