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The Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Falling Gas Prices
cato ^ | 12-11-2014 | RANDAL O'TOOLE

Posted on 12/11/2014 7:08:04 AM PST by Citizen Zed

A left-coast writer named Mark Morford thinks that gas prices falling to $2 a gallon would be the worst thing to happen to America. After all, he says, the wrong people would profit: oil companies (why would oil companies profit from lower gas prices?), auto makers, and internet retailers like Amazon that offer free shipping.

If falling gas prices are the worst for America, then the best, Morford goes on to say, would be to raise gas taxes by $6 a gallon and dedicate all of the revenue to (boondoggles) “alternative energy and transport, environmental protections, our busted educational system, our multi-trillion debt.” After all, government has proven itself so capable of finding the most cost-effective solutions to any problem in the past, and there’s no better way to reduce the debt than to tax the economy to death.

Morford is right in line with progressives like Naomi Klein, who thinks climate change is a grand opportunity to make war on capitalism. Despite doubts cast by other leftists, Klein insists that “responding to climate change could be the catalyst for a positive social and economic transformation”–by which she means government control of transportation, housing, and just about everything else.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: energy; gasoline; gasolineprice; globalwarminghoax; markmorford; naomiklein; opec; russia; saudiarabia
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To: Mr. K

One would have thought that Morford died of AIDS a long time ago.


21 posted on 12/11/2014 7:31:20 AM PST by anoldafvet (We need a National Conservative Party for 2016.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Why are falling prices bad? Lower prices are good for people and their pocketbooks. What makes higher prices good? That is pure economic ignorance.


22 posted on 12/11/2014 7:32:55 AM PST by mulligan (I)
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To: Citizen Zed

$2.89 in San Diego is a miracle.


23 posted on 12/11/2014 7:37:10 AM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: oblomov

Huh? How would the shipping cost less unless the shipper charges less.
My point is that they do not

A more realistic outcome of cheaper gas prices is folks would be more willing to drive further to buy from brick and mortar rather than wait for shipping.


24 posted on 12/11/2014 7:37:54 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Citizen Zed

$2.23 in Sioux Falls, SD yesterday, but in Minneapolis gasoline is 20-30 cents per gallon more... I’m betting it is the difference in gas tax.


25 posted on 12/11/2014 7:37:58 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: The Great RJ

Just filled up in Santa Barbara, CA...still slightly above $4.00/gallon.


26 posted on 12/11/2014 7:39:14 AM PST by halo66
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To: moehoward

I haven’t heard that the airlines have removed the surcharges they added when fuel prices spiked.


27 posted on 12/11/2014 7:39:32 AM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: luvbach1
"surcharges"

Nor has UPS. One of my favorite pet peeves....Like going into a restaurant and paying a 'plate surcharge'.

28 posted on 12/11/2014 7:43:01 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Citizen Zed
The other really good news about lower oil/gas prices besides giving the average American more disposable income. The lower oil prices are doing to the thugs of the world with a lot of cheap oil on hand.

The good news is the Opecker Princes, South America Opeckers and Putin are getting kicked below the belt each day, when the price of oil drops again and again.

The price oil dropped even more while we were eating our turkey and dressing.

The Iranian thugs just yesterday were whining openingly about the low oil prices.

29 posted on 12/11/2014 7:43:44 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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To: mulligan
Why are falling prices bad?

Because people will take those EEEEEEEEVIL Hummers out of mothballs and drive them again.

30 posted on 12/11/2014 7:45:18 AM PST by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: moehoward

Here is a McKinsey Quarterly article with some details on Amazon’s supply chain:
https://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/mckinsey/dotcom/client_service/Retail/Articles/Future_of_retail_supply_chains.ashx

Amazon has an extensive freight network for transporting product from the warehouse to shipper distribution centers. Their costs from the shipper may not be tied to the fuel cost, but their own freight shipping costs are.


31 posted on 12/11/2014 7:47:08 AM PST by oblomov
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To: Mr. K

There used to be postings of his stuff here on FR on occasion but I think we got bored of his insanity. Regardless there are plenty of postings of the insane left here to fill many a bucket of vomit. I no longer automatically read here on FR some outrageous stuff the left spews that I did in years gone by. One tires of it .


32 posted on 12/11/2014 7:47:40 AM PST by xp38
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To: 1Old Pro

Thanks for posting this good bit of reality:

“It’s a huge tax break for Americans. Each penny drop is a billion dollar infusion into the economy.”

On the flip side, each penny increase is a billion $ take away.

Isn’t it amazing how all the Ivy League Grubering Economists never address that when they push for higher taxes and more acts of Eco terrorism on our economy.


33 posted on 12/11/2014 7:48:14 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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To: xp38

“I no longer automatically read here on FR some outrageous stuff the left spews that I did in years gone by. One tires of it.”

Exactly, which is why I don’t subscribe to the NY Slimes/Compost/Times and other left wing Gruberings posing as news.

So why read it on FR. A headline is enough and sometimes too much.


34 posted on 12/11/2014 7:50:31 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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To: moehoward

“...Amazon that offer free shipping.”

Just my opinion——

1. Nothing, and I mean nothing that I have bought at Amazon in the last year qualified for “free shipping.”
2. The purchase price of the item one is buying on Amazon can be found for less at alternate sites. Amazon is putting the shipping cost into the price of the item so there is really no “free shipping”.


35 posted on 12/11/2014 7:50:50 AM PST by GYPSY286 (Politicians must USE their heads or Americans will LOSE their heads.)
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To: luvbach1
I haven’t heard that the airlines have removed the surcharges they added when fuel prices spiked.

It took them decades to do it, but the airlines have finally aligned capacity with demand, and firmed up prices. I remember in the 90s flying on a lot of half full planes, that never happens anymore. Then again with $2/gal, more folks will drive.

36 posted on 12/11/2014 7:51:09 AM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
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To: GYPSY286

Full disclosure. We bought nearly every gift for Christmas from Amazon this year. Every item shipped “free”.

A few of these things could only be found from one of Amazons sellers, the rest we could have found locally from driving around. The carrot for Amazon shopping this years was zero interest for 12 months.


37 posted on 12/11/2014 7:55:44 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Citizen Zed

The thing to realize is that these environmentalists would hate gas and cars even if someone invented a fuel that was harmless and free.

They would still decry all the resources being used in their manufacture.

They would still complain about the roads changing the natural environment.

Pollution is just an excuse.

What they really hate is that as it stands just any old schmuck can get in a car and drive 1200 miles to wherever they wish without clearing it with somebody important first.

They hate freedom.


38 posted on 12/11/2014 8:01:53 AM PST by servo1969
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To: Citizen Zed

$2.39 here in Virginia. $3.39 this past June. Saves $15.00 per fill up. $15, $30, $45, $60. If someone fills up four times a month then the savings is $60. For many, many people, the people I deal with on a daily basis, this is a big deal.

Helps businesses too. Unmitigated good.


39 posted on 12/11/2014 8:13:27 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: deadrock

Not all oil sands projects are created equal, of course. Cenovus, which uses super-hot bursts of steam to melt seams of bitumen buried too deep to mine, says it can coax oil from the sands for between $35 and $65 (U.S.) per barrel, depending on geology and other input costs.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/rob-magazine/is-oil-sands-development-still-worth-it/article21334385/


40 posted on 12/11/2014 8:18:30 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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