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At the source, photos have been taken of a typical soldier's kit from British armies from 1066 (Hastings), 1244 (Crusades - Jerusalem), 1415 (Hundred Years War - Agincourt), 1485 (Wars of the Roses - Bosworth), 1588 (Spanish Armada - Tilbury), 1645 (English Civil War - Naseby), 1709 (War of the Spanish Succession - Malplaquet), 1815 (Napoleonic Wars - Waterloo), 1854 (Crimean War - Alma), 1916 (World War I - Somme), 1944 (World War II - Arnhem), 1982 (Falklands War - Stanley), 2014 (Afghanistan War - Helmland)

Fascinating stuff

1 posted on 12/08/2014 12:03:39 PM PST by naturalman1975
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To: SunkenCiv

PING


2 posted on 12/08/2014 12:05:33 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: naturalman1975

I think I’ve seen this before, and it is, as you say, fascinating.


3 posted on 12/08/2014 12:05:41 PM PST by real saxophonist (Youtube + Twitter + Facebook = YouTwitFace.com)
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To: naturalman1975

Very nice!


4 posted on 12/08/2014 12:07:43 PM PST by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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To: naturalman1975

Indeed it is, but after Jerusalem, the only other long gap seems deliberate, as if to avoid the American Revolution or the Seven Years War (French & Indian War on this side of the pond).


6 posted on 12/08/2014 12:10:03 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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One thing that has remained pretty much a constant from the time of the Roman Centurion to the present combat infantryman: the load he’s expected to carry on his back has stayed at 60 pounds (and sometimes more). That’s why you hear of the infantry being called Grunts — that’s what you do when you try to get on your feet with this load.


7 posted on 12/08/2014 12:11:01 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: naturalman1975

Nice!


8 posted on 12/08/2014 12:11:03 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: naturalman1975

Note the growth in the volume, size and weight of the kit. Current US thinking limits the “combat load” to 50 lbs and march load to 72 lbs.

http://thedonovan.com/archives/modernwarriorload/ModernWarriorsCombatLoadReport.pdf


9 posted on 12/08/2014 12:11:31 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: naturalman1975

In going thru the photos, it struck me that with time, the Kit was more and more equipment. Now it looks like the soldier is being used as a pack mule.


10 posted on 12/08/2014 12:13:09 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: naturalman1975

bump for later


11 posted on 12/08/2014 12:13:41 PM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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Thom Atkinson

Fortuitous name ...

12 posted on 12/08/2014 12:14:44 PM PST by NorthMountain
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Thanks for posting. Look forward to seeing it on a bigger screen later in the day.


13 posted on 12/08/2014 12:15:16 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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Checked out the gear for Battle of Algincourt.

I had family on both sides of that conflict.

Lots of Thibaults fought and died in that battle.

15 posted on 12/08/2014 12:16:31 PM PST by mware
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To: naturalman1975

Have to agree. Fascinating! Meticulously done.


16 posted on 12/08/2014 12:16:53 PM PST by rejoicing
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To: naturalman1975

Ya that’s pretty cool, thanks for posting.


17 posted on 12/08/2014 12:17:45 PM PST by Justice
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Never enough water, ammo, or armor.


18 posted on 12/08/2014 12:17:52 PM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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Compare the mace in the 1244 mounted knight’s kit with the mace in the 1916 private soldier’s kit.

Darn near identical.


20 posted on 12/08/2014 12:19:38 PM PST by NorthMountain
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Very interesting, especially the socks.

Socks look to have been issued for hundreds of years, but the Russians only started issuing them in the last couple of decades. It was 2 diaper sized pieces of cloth before that for the Rooskies.


21 posted on 12/08/2014 12:20:08 PM PST by wrench (Ebola is not a threat to the US. 0bama says so, and he would never lie..........)
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25 posted on 12/08/2014 12:34:41 PM PST by skinkinthegrass ("Bathhouse" E'Bola/0'Boehmer/0'McConnell; all STINK and their best friends are flies. d8^)
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"‘I’ve never been a soldier. It’s difficult to look in on a subject like this and completely understand it. I wanted it to be about people."

That comment struck me: so why hasn't he been a soldier? Is it only the duty of a few? Is this generation that soft and unmanly?

This stuff is all common sense - if the writer had even been camping over a weekend, he would have understood the need for most of that stuff. All the rest are just implements of the trade.

One other comment - don't the Brits carry grenades? We always carried as many as we could. They tend to be very useful in awkward social situations.

29 posted on 12/08/2014 12:50:22 PM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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I stand corrected: just spotted grenades on the 1944 and 1982 pages.

We tended to carry 4 grenades each in Vietnam and if we could get them, a 2-pound block of C-4 (for bunkers), a couple of LAWS 66mm rockets and at least 7 loaded magazines plus one bandoleer of ammo in clips. Running out of ammo usually only happens once in combat.


31 posted on 12/08/2014 1:01:26 PM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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