Sherman Logan: "Lincoln made no such offer. He was ready to trade Sumter for Virginia, not Virginia for recognition of the CSA."
Thanks for that!
Honest to goodness, it's like Rush says: you have to "read the stiches on a fast-ball" with these people, otherwise you address one issue and let something else slide right on by.
The question for Lincoln was not letting the "rest of the South secede", but he was willing to abandon Fort Sumter, if Virginians promised to remain in the Union.
As I pointed out in my previous reply, do you have any idea how nonsensical that sounds? How can he "abandon Fort Sumter" if there is no one to abandon it to? Was he to pull out of it and let nature take it? Let it be overgrown with trees and bushes or something?
Stop spouting nonsense and come to terms with the fact that the war was not even fought to "preserve the Union." Based on what you have told me, It appears now that it was fought to "preserve the hegemony."
Yes, there is a cause worth dying for. To preserve the wealth and power of our North Eastern ruling class, a condition which has seemingly persisted till today, and is even now creating the same sort of resentment to the Washington corridor power brokers that likely existed back then.
My eyes are opened even wider now. Thank you for that.