Note: this topic is from 12/02/2014. Thanks C19fan.
Posted on 12/02/2014 11:06:51 AM PST by C19fan
He was one of the nation’s most notorious monarchs in life, and Richard III is still creating controversy more than 500 years after his death. Genetic analysis of a skeleton discovered beneath a car park in Leicester three years ago has confirmed it did indeed belong to the last Plantagenet king. Much more intriguingly, it held a secret that could shake the foundations of the Tudor dynasty. The genetic discovery even raises a question mark over the current Queen’s royal heritage. DNA analysis revealed that one of Richard III’s male relatives was cuckolded - leading to his wife giving birth to another man’s child. Depending on just who was unfaithful, it could have far-reaching consequences.
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Or maybe she was just lucky to be chunky, big-nosed, and not very clean. Imagine what could have happened if he had liked her!
The good news is Henry paid top dollar for the Queen's new attendant from France, the bad news is he's a . . . .
Right.
His rule was established based upon his victory in battle. His enduring line was due to uniting the factions after the victory.
Tudors were Welsh that came about when Owen married the widow of Henry the fifth, a French princess. No Plantagenet blood at all on the male side. Henry Tudor, Henry the VII, received some credibility from his mother, a great-great grand daughter of Edward III.
By marrying Edward IV’s daughter, he was uniting the Yorkist side of the War of the Roses with his Lancaster heritage in an effort to end the terrible war and solidify his claim.
Dan Jones follows up his Plantagenet book with the War of the Roses and paints a picture of that bloody era.
The Wars of the Roses were very bloody indeed.
As a result of which, even if the Gauntian illegitimacy is a fact, that merely makes Henry Tudor an usurper.
But Henry VIII becomes the legitimate Yorkist king though descent from his mother, Elizabeth of York.
And his sister, Margaret Queen of Scots, continues the York linage in the Suarts.
So no change.
Interesting! Thanks!
Note: this topic is from 12/02/2014. Thanks C19fan.
(Note sacks of payola!)
NOW you tell me!
In the painting below, the king is wearing a jeweled gold piece that seems too large to be called a necklace. it fits over his shoulders and drapes over his chest. What is it called?
I have been watching the the series the Tudors and all the males in Henry VIII's court wear one. Some are more elaborate and some lack jewels.
*snicker*
Sometimes it’s interesting to look back. I was making sense on this thread, even though I’d probably had quite a bit to drink, since my father had just died.
BO is the pretender to the throne of Africa
“No relative of his has any right to the thrown.”
Some claim rights to the throne but to be thrown might be a bit much.
It’s a chain of office.
Interesting, considering in those days cuckolding the King was considered treason, punishable by a traitors death.
I’ve got Michael Wood’s “The Story of England” playing in the next room, a while ago they were recounting a (translated to modern English) 12th c report of a mass execution of “thieves”, some of whom were blinded and castrated before hanging. Effin’ Normans.
Michael Wood
Story of England
BBC
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Romans to Normans
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1kx8t9_bbc-michael-woods-story-of-england-1of6-romans-to-normans-pdtv-xvid-ac3-mvgroup-org_tech
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Domesday to Magna.Carta
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1kx8oj_bbc-michael-woods-story-of-england-2of6-domesday-to-magna-carta-pdtv-xvid_tech
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The Great Famine and the Black Death
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1kx8q6_bbc-michael-woods-story-of-england-3of6-the-great-famine-and-the-black-death-pdtv-xvid_tech
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Peasants Revolt to Tudors
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1kxbm2_bbc-michael-woods-story-of-england-4of6-peasants-revolt-to-tudors-pdtv-xvid-ac3-mvgroup-org_tech
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Henry VIII to the Industrial Revolution
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1kxbnd_bbc-michael-woods-story-of-england-5of6-henry-viii-to-the-industrial-revolution-pdtv-xvid-ac3-mvgrou_tech
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Victoria to the Present Day
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1kxboa_bbc-michael-woods-story-of-england-6of6-victoria-to-the-present-day-pdtv-xvid-ac3-mvgroup-org_tech
video search:
http://www.google.com/search?q=the+story+of+england&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=vid&source=og&sa=N&tab=wv
The ironic thing was that Thomas a Becket was Norman, not Saxon. When the playwright found that out she didn't change anything because she thought the story played better if Thomas was a Saxon. One would have thought she would know that a Becket is not a Saxon name.
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