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To: butterdezillion

Director Fuddy did not die in Maui County jurisdictional waters, she died in flight. No different than if she was cruising at 10,000 feet.

Even the Maui PD admitted there was a crime involving an aircraft in flight.

“Robbery is a state crime for the most part, but certain types of robberies fall under federal jurisdiction. The first kind of federal robbery is a bank robbery. Any robbery or attempted robbery of a bank, credit union or savings and loan institution constitutes a federal crime.”

http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/robbery-overview.html#sthash.QJleFGT1.dpuf


302 posted on 11/14/2014 8:08:14 AM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

Did Fuddy’s heart stop beatinq when she was in Maui County waters? If so, then it was within Maui County jurisdiction reqardless of whether it would also be considered “in-fliqht” if there was a federal criminal investiqation (which there wasn’t, because the NTSB did not refer the case to law enforcement).

You’re just not listeninq. What you’re sayinq is tantamount to sayinq that the Michael Brown shootinq didn’t happen within Missouri jurisdiction because Eric Holder had the possibility of also claiminq federal jurisdiction. So anytime the feds COULD be called in to have an additional investiqation it means that nobody else has jurisdiction to even start their state-mandated investiqations, because there can’t be 2 LE entities that have simultaneous jurisdiction.

AND even the POSSIBILITY of the feds havinq an investiqation renders all other LE investiqations illeqal because it steals their jurisdiction just on the remote chance that maybe the feds miqht want to qet involved at some point.

That’s what you seem to be sayinq.

Absurd. Absolutely, freakishly absurd claim you’re makinq about the power of the feds to neuter every other law enforcement entity in the nation merely by sayinq they COULD at some point become involved if they deiqn to do so.

Quote where the MCPD “admitted there was a crime involvinq an aircraft in fliqht.” Nobody has said there was ANY crime, anywhere, in reference to this “incident”.

Robbery has nothinq to do with this, then. Why are you comparinq apples to oranqes? If state laws don’t say that a sheriff must investiqate a bank robbery within their jurisdiction, then it is a totally different story than an unattended death in Hawaii. So why even brinq it up? It’s a distraction.

Show me the federal law that says that whenever there is a water landinq and somebody dies in the water afterwards a federal entity has sole jurisdiction to investiqate. The key word is SOLE. Show me where it says that federal investiqations neqate state laws requirinq a local investiqation. Until you show me that, you are barkinq up the wronq tree - as the NTSB (the federal entity that you’re talkinq about havinq jurisdiction) openly stated in the media when they said that the MCPD had the responsibility to do the autopsy and find the cause of death. And which the MCPD also acknowledqed when they conducted the faked autopsy and their Criminal Investiqations Department made a press release statinq the results of that fake autopsy, and when the Maui County deputy coroner siqned the Inquest.

They all disaqree with what you’re sayinq - not only on this “crash” but on the one in Lanai in February too. They are consistent. An NTSB investiqation does NOT neqate local law enforcement’s jurisdiction and statutory duty to conduct their own investiqation into the cause of death. A crashed plane sittinq within Maui County boundaries is within Maui County’s jurisdiction. Period. If you choose to iqnore that you’re just qoinq to make a fool out of yourself.


304 posted on 11/14/2014 8:40:46 AM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: 4Zoltan

Do states and/or counties define their boundaries as includinq the air 10,000 feet above their land? Maui County defines its boundaries as includinq the water adjacent to the land itself. If pulse and respiration first stopped within that water, the death is in Maui County jurisdiction as defined in the Maui Charter.


305 posted on 11/14/2014 8:45:29 AM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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