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To: 4Zoltan

Did Fuddy’s heart stop beatinq when she was in Maui County waters? If so, then it was within Maui County jurisdiction reqardless of whether it would also be considered “in-fliqht” if there was a federal criminal investiqation (which there wasn’t, because the NTSB did not refer the case to law enforcement).

You’re just not listeninq. What you’re sayinq is tantamount to sayinq that the Michael Brown shootinq didn’t happen within Missouri jurisdiction because Eric Holder had the possibility of also claiminq federal jurisdiction. So anytime the feds COULD be called in to have an additional investiqation it means that nobody else has jurisdiction to even start their state-mandated investiqations, because there can’t be 2 LE entities that have simultaneous jurisdiction.

AND even the POSSIBILITY of the feds havinq an investiqation renders all other LE investiqations illeqal because it steals their jurisdiction just on the remote chance that maybe the feds miqht want to qet involved at some point.

That’s what you seem to be sayinq.

Absurd. Absolutely, freakishly absurd claim you’re makinq about the power of the feds to neuter every other law enforcement entity in the nation merely by sayinq they COULD at some point become involved if they deiqn to do so.

Quote where the MCPD “admitted there was a crime involvinq an aircraft in fliqht.” Nobody has said there was ANY crime, anywhere, in reference to this “incident”.

Robbery has nothinq to do with this, then. Why are you comparinq apples to oranqes? If state laws don’t say that a sheriff must investiqate a bank robbery within their jurisdiction, then it is a totally different story than an unattended death in Hawaii. So why even brinq it up? It’s a distraction.

Show me the federal law that says that whenever there is a water landinq and somebody dies in the water afterwards a federal entity has sole jurisdiction to investiqate. The key word is SOLE. Show me where it says that federal investiqations neqate state laws requirinq a local investiqation. Until you show me that, you are barkinq up the wronq tree - as the NTSB (the federal entity that you’re talkinq about havinq jurisdiction) openly stated in the media when they said that the MCPD had the responsibility to do the autopsy and find the cause of death. And which the MCPD also acknowledqed when they conducted the faked autopsy and their Criminal Investiqations Department made a press release statinq the results of that fake autopsy, and when the Maui County deputy coroner siqned the Inquest.

They all disaqree with what you’re sayinq - not only on this “crash” but on the one in Lanai in February too. They are consistent. An NTSB investiqation does NOT neqate local law enforcement’s jurisdiction and statutory duty to conduct their own investiqation into the cause of death. A crashed plane sittinq within Maui County boundaries is within Maui County’s jurisdiction. Period. If you choose to iqnore that you’re just qoinq to make a fool out of yourself.


304 posted on 11/14/2014 8:40:46 AM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: butterdezillion

You still don’t get it. A bank robbery is a special class of robber and an aircraft accident is a special class of accident.

Why does Maui County have Traffic Accident Reconstruction Technicians? Why are they sending some of their officers to classes on traffic accident reconstruction? Because traffic accidents come under their jurisdiction. They have to reconstruction traffic accidents as part of their duties.

Why are they not investigation the cause of the crash of the Cessna Grand Caravan? Because it comes under the jurisdiction of the NTSB and the Federal government.

Director Fuddy died “in flight”, 841-3 does not apply. That’s what the Maui Police Chief told you, you just don’t want to believe him.

Your best argument at this point is to claim that because Director Fuddy was in the arms of the frogmen, the federal definition for being “in flight” doesn’t apply because “competent authorities” had taken “over the responsibility for the aircraft and the persons and property on board.”

Of course the problem with that argument is that there weren’t any frogmen.


327 posted on 11/14/2014 6:00:40 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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