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Question about submarines
Self | 10/26/2014 | LS

Posted on 10/26/2014 4:45:21 AM PDT by LS

I noticed that the US Navy commissioned the USS North Dakota, but that it was "SSN" and not an SSBN, meaning it doesn't carry ballistic missiles.

When did they start applying STATE names to. SSNs, which used to have city names, since only ballistic missile subs carried state names?


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: submarines
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To: mylife

No, I’m done with subs and really with military topics. In fact, I am done writing. “Patriot’s History of the Modern World” was my last book.


81 posted on 10/26/2014 12:08:44 PM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: Admin Moderator

Please correct the title. The only reason that I clicked on this thread is I didn’t know what a “subarine” was.
Thanx.

5.56mm


82 posted on 10/26/2014 12:11:02 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Gay State Conservative

And ‘spit’ right back up to!


83 posted on 10/26/2014 12:17:32 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and It's a GREAT life!)
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To: LS

Sorry to hear you are done writing.


84 posted on 10/26/2014 2:06:48 PM PDT by mylife
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To: LS

Sorry to hear that, LS.


85 posted on 10/26/2014 2:29:55 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: fatman6502002
I think the other two, Seawolf and Connecticut, have been or are going to be upgraded to the same configuration as the 23 boat. They are all part of Submarine Development Squadron 5 or COMSUBDEVRON5. These three are specially outfitted to carry out special intelligence gathering operations.

Seawolf and Connecticut were co-located with Carter at the Trident facility in Washington more as a way to consolidate supply chain management and maintenance for a very limited-run class of ships. Carter is based there, as was her special missions boat predecessor (Parche) for security purposes.

I haven't heard about Seawolf or Connecticut being upgraded with the hull plug. Not sure if that makes sense as opposed to using the Virginia-class as the base platform. IIRC the Virginias were specifically designed for all sorts of upgrades, including the capability of being stretched to take a midships Trident missile farm as an Ohio-class replacement.

I'm talking a new-build boat based on the Virginia design, not an existing Virginia taken out of service and cut in half. Like how the first SSBN's (George Washington class) were stretched Skipjacks. Building in a midships extension during construction is one thing, but doing a cut-n-insert on an existing submarine is kinda dicey given the rigours they have to withstand.

In any event, the Seawolf and Connecticut remain the best attack subs in the fleet, with all sorts of goodies (massive torpedo inventory, large-diameter "swim-out" tubes) designed to go forth and, quite frankly, smite an enemy's submarine force. Which is why they're in the Pacific, pointed directly at China. With Russia perfectly aware of their capability to go up over the Pole at THEIR submarines.
86 posted on 10/26/2014 2:57:51 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Afterguard

My son was on a sub.. the USS Augusta a Fast Attack Los Angeles class... City names are Fast attack subs and Boomers are named for states


87 posted on 10/26/2014 3:15:27 PM PDT by Bob Eimiller
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To: mylife

Got to her half way through refuel at MINSY in the late 80s....spent the next four+ years driving her around the Pacific. Good boat she was.


88 posted on 10/26/2014 3:16:07 PM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: mylife
***sigh****


89 posted on 10/26/2014 3:22:59 PM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: mylife; combat_boots

I’m not done writing. I’m just done writing books. I’ve written a screenplay just two weeks ago and am 1/3 through a second one. When one door closes, another opens.


90 posted on 10/26/2014 4:19:48 PM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: LS

Awesome.

I love history and books but I think film adaptions of History really make history come alive for folks who would otherwise not read about it.

I wish you well in all your future works.


91 posted on 10/26/2014 4:36:27 PM PDT by mylife
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To: SES1066
when at the end one kid says Cary Grant's real name rather than the character name.

Cary Grant's real name was Archie Leach.

92 posted on 10/26/2014 4:54:47 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: LS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Hyman_G._Rickover_(SSN-709)


93 posted on 10/26/2014 5:33:20 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: LS

Make a movie about about President Ronald Reagan that would be awesome.


94 posted on 10/26/2014 5:45:34 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Howard Phillips Conservative)
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To: rottndog

Sigh


95 posted on 10/26/2014 5:49:02 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

During WWII the Navy maintained a rather ridged scheme for naming their ships. Battleships = States,(Iowa, West Virginia). Heavy cruiser = Large U.S. cities (Los Angele,
Indianapolis). Light cruisers = small U.S. cities (Boise, Duluth) Destroyers & DEs, = former personnel of the Navy or Marine Corp usually, but not always those that had been decorated for heroism. Carriers = Ships or Battles of the American Revolution (Ranger, Bonhomme Richard, Yorktown or Saratoga). Carriers were the first class of ships to break the name rules, Shangra-La, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Midway.
Escort carriers were named for geographical features such as Sitkoh Bay, Gambier Bay, Savo Island, Makin Island.
Hospital ships were named for their purpose, Solice, Mercy,
Comfort. Ammunition ships were named for thing that blow up, Nitro, Pyro, Mt. Baker, Kilauea. Fleet oiler were named for medium and small size rivers in the U.S., Platte, Ponchatoula, Ashtabula. Fleet tugs were named for American Indian tribes such as Abnaki, Molala. This naming scheme was followed closely during the Second World War but after the war in the 50s things changed and the names of Naval vessels became sort of a political football in some cases.


96 posted on 10/26/2014 6:10:38 PM PDT by X Fretensis (How)
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To: X Fretensis

Thanks!


97 posted on 10/27/2014 3:09:40 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Reagan will be one episode of six if we get full funding.


98 posted on 10/27/2014 3:56:10 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: mylife

Well, the COB knows it— and that would be the next cog to be ruined— taking out the critical COBs who know how things work and get things done. A female COB would be the step to break that and achieve destruction of readiness.

All so some political appointee academy grad mostly, female can get a command. This should not be happening. It will take the loss of a sub to stop it.

And the PC nature of the command collapse and discipline is evident from the Admiral’s Mast and decisions in a very prominent case (this piece of work lesbo did 15 years to full retirement— and made it to Captain??? Say there isn’t a gender career rocket for PC):

http://www.navytimes.com/article/20120106/NEWS/201060320/Fired-Cowpens-CO-to-get-8216-honorable-retirement


99 posted on 10/28/2014 5:04:12 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby

I always said the first issue would be that 80 men are gonna get pissed off if 14 women get their own shower and head, and the 80 men lose one of theirs.

So whats the brass do? They say, “well, we’ll make em officers and that will put an end to that crap”

Now were gonna have 14 greenhorn splittails on board demanding respect and ordering around career sailors.

This is gonna get ugly, hell we generally have to teach male Jr officers how it works.
“You need to stand down butterbar”.

People who have never been on a boat just to not understand how it all works.


100 posted on 10/28/2014 8:21:00 AM PDT by mylife
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