Strange ebola behavior

Oct. 17, 2014 | Capt. Tom

[Capt. Tom]

Thomas Eric Duncan, who had ebola , flew into this country from Liberia and mingled and interacted with family, friends and others.
After a few days here he got so sick from ebola, he went to the Hospital in Dallas, but was sent home because he was misdiagnosed.
About 4 more days of mingling with others while still showing the symptoms, he was so sick he went back to the Dallas hospital by ambulance.

The CDC estimates about 84 people in Dallas had contact with him one way or the other.
Additionally the people on the airplanes he flew in could be possible ebola targets. That’s a lot of people in total.
Yet the only people that came in contact with him that have come down with ebola symptoms are 2 nurses at the Dallas Hospital. ((And they supposedly wore protective gear.)

Statistically , why aren’t there more infections?? This seems strange to me. -Tom

[logi_cal869]

Yeah, I read that. Pissed me off rightly, it did. It's what I was referring to but too busy to reference directly.

I don't have children of my own. But I'm just curious how many parents have called their absentee-Congressmen about Enterovirus, Ebola and their silence & lack of action on this.

I've never in my life seen so little said about such crisis as this by our elected leaders...both sides.

And the crisis I'm referring to is NOT Ebola...

"Treachery" is the word I've used prior.

For the purpose of clarity:

treach·er·y

betrayal of trust; deceptive action or nature.
synonyms: perfidy, betrayal, disloyalty, faithlessness, unfaithfulness, infidelity, breach of trust, duplicity,
dirty tricks, deceit, deception, chicanery, stab in the back, backstabbing, double-dealing, untrustworthiness;

per·fi·dy

deceitfulness; untrustworthiness.
synonyms: treachery, duplicity, deceit, deceitfulness, disloyalty, infidelity, faithlessness, unfaithfulness,
betrayal, treason, double-dealing, untrustworthiness, breach of trust;

[cynwoody]

Duncan was in Africa. He cared for a dying pregnant woman.
He then seems to have said, "Hmmmm. I've been exposed. I'm sure I'm going to die. I should quit my job, fly to America, and seek top medical help. Certainly I feel fine, there's no trace of any symptom, but I know I've received a death sentence."

And he was right about that. He got infected from his exposure. He thought he had a death sentence, and he did.

You've not a clue what you are blathering about.

For a guy who knew he'd been exposed to Ebola, Duncan was mighty resistant to the idea of obtaining medical care in the Land of the Free. On his first visit to the ER, he didn't object when they sent him home with a worthless antibiotic prescription. He also objected when his stepdaughter called 911 to get him checked in a few days later. If his plan had been come to America to get treated for Ebola, he would have headed for Atlanta, not Dallas. Duh! And he would have had his story straight on how he got the disease.

Fact is, the family of Marthalene Williams, the infected pregnant woman Duncan handled, had insisted it wasn't Ebola, just pregnancy complications. We know this because of taxi driver Jiminez Grugbaye's account of the incident. Being somewhere on the right side of the bell curve, Grugbaye, upon reflection on what he had seen, fumigated his cab twice and went to a clinic to get checked. Sadly, Duncan was not so smart.

IOW, it's more than likely Duncan did not know he'd been exposed to Ebola. Marthalene Williams was the first case in the neighborhood. The popular perception of Ebola among Liberians is completely screwed up, as we saw last August, when a mob attacked a quarantine center and freed the patients. Liberians redefine the notion of "low information".

[RC one]

I’m assuming that it goes airborne anytime body fluids become aerosolized as in explosive diarrhea, projectile vomiting, toilet flushing, intubations, coughing, sneezing, during nebulizer therapies. I am assuming that because that’s what the center for infectious disease says and because, as an ER nurse, I may have to deal with this crap and I don’t plan on listening to the dumbasses that have gotten everything wrong thus far. What somebody else chooses to do with their life is their business though.

[BobL]

...there’s an election coming up and CDC has options to keep people quiet, at least until then.

[Cowgirl of Justice]

So, are you saying that Judge Jenkins did NOT drive the family to a 4 bedroom home in a gated community, which is what has been reported?

http://mashable.com/2014/10/04/quarantined-family-moved-ebola-texas/

Please provide a link.

[Makana]

“And they supposedly wore protective gear.”

My wife had a stem cell transplant in one of the best hospitals in the northeast. She was in an isolation ward for thirty days - separate room, no visitors beyond me, reverse air-pressure ventilation, cap/gown/gloves for all visitors, etc. My wife wasn’t infectious. Rather she had no immune system at that point.

Yet the protocol had minor violations over that stretch. She fainted while I was there and the nurse rushed in without cleaning her hands or donning a mask.

I was nothing but grateful. Yet this illustrates how workers react to situations out of muscle memory and habit.

Now these were highly trained and experienced nurses used to Isolation Ward work. Imagine how the second and third level personnel drafted into a highly infectious environment will fare.

[ladyjane]

If it were a terrorist attack, why go to the hospital twice when he could have instead been out in public at the mall,

The best way to transmit ebola would be at the hospital where a nurse will be putting her hands on the patient, taking his temperature. Sitting next to him at a ball park or walking by him in a mall won't do it.

[ladyjane]

I have no idea where the judge drove that family. I have no idea if they are in a gated community or why there is a blackout of information about them.

What I do figure it the ‘girlfriend’ lied that he slept in every bed in the house. I think they all knew he was sick and he was in isolation in that apartment.

Otherwise they’d be coming down with it. Maybe they did but we’re not hearing about it. Why?

[mad_as_he$$]

+1. There are rumors Duncan was a distraction from a more serious outbreak that is being covered up.

[riri]

Why don’t we hear anything from one person in that gated community?

[Cowgirl of Justice]

I, too, find it hard to believe that neighbors in the same community it aren’t screaming from the rooftops.

Not sure if I read every mattress was saturated in their apt.

I am just not exactly happy those freeloaders are getting the royal treatment while our veterans are ignored and are suffering.

[Capt. Tom]

They are at their most contagious in the latter stages when they are melting down. The dudes family needs to be deported as soon as they come out of quarantine as they are illegal aliens.

"Saturday, Oct 18, 2014 • Updated at 11:23 AM CDT
The first group of people exposed to Thomas Eric Duncan, the first person to die from Ebola in the United States, will no longer be considered at risk for the Ebola virus at 12 a.m. Monday.

After three weeks of isolation or self-monitoring, 47 people -- including Duncan's fiancee Louise Troh, her 13-year-old son and two nephews --- will be cleared and allowed to go on with their lives".
NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth

[XEHRpa]

>>>The timeline simply doesn’t allow for him deciding to come to America after knowing he was sick.

I never indicated that that was the case. Just reread the text of mine you quoted. What it says is true:

Thomas Eric Duncan, the Liberian man who died from Ebola earlier this month, had traveled to the United States after his visa was approved in August, the same month that USCIS announced the new relief measures.

I go that exact quote from this site:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/10/17/wow-obama-adminstration-started-streamlining-visas-from-west-africa-in-august-at-height-of-ebola-crisis-n1906576