Hebrews 12:6 -
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Proverbs 3:12 - For whom the LORD loves he corrects; even as a father the son in whom he delights.
And, I do think they started out with good intentions and did bear good fruit. You are free to believe what you want, and I’ll do the same.
While Hebrews 12:6 is true, it neither means everyone who claims to be a son (or daughter) is a son, not that everyone who is punished is a son. Matthew 7 is very strong. To ignore Jesus because we desire a favorite TV minister to be in heaven, or someone such as Luther, Calvin, or a bad pope, is fraught with peril. We can rely on the Jewish apostles (sans Judas who was removed) and Jewish prophets (mentioned in Bible) being there, along with blessed Mary and Joseph, and others mentioned favorably in the Scriptures. They are our witnesses right now. Good ratings and heavy makeup on TV is not a passport to the kingdom.