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To: Catsrus
And, I do think they started out with good intentions and did bear good fruit. You are free to believe what you want, and I’ll do the same.

While Hebrews 12:6 is true, it neither means everyone who claims to be a son (or daughter) is a son, not that everyone who is punished is a son. Matthew 7 is very strong. To ignore Jesus because we desire a favorite TV minister to be in heaven, or someone such as Luther, Calvin, or a bad pope, is fraught with peril. We can rely on the Jewish apostles (sans Judas who was removed) and Jewish prophets (mentioned in Bible) being there, along with blessed Mary and Joseph, and others mentioned favorably in the Scriptures. They are our witnesses right now. Good ratings and heavy makeup on TV is not a passport to the kingdom.

65 posted on 10/15/2014 5:19:17 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

No one said good ratings and heavy makeup is a passport into heaven. And, to be perfectly honest, we know very little about Joseph - other than he was engaged to and married Mary. Paul the Apostle was not Jewish - he was a Gentile. Other than that - your post makes very little sense. No one is ignoring Jesus - I was merely stating that I believe the Bakkers started out with good intentions, and yes, their ministry bore fruit. If you know the Scriptures at all, you’ll find that most all who God chose had feet of clay, only Jesus was perfect. David conspired to have Bethsheba’s husband murdered, he committed adultery with her, Moses killed a man with his bare hands, and the list goes on and on. But, God forgave and used these imperfect vessels. Even Peter was rebuked by the Lord on a couple of occasions.


67 posted on 10/16/2014 1:51:39 AM PDT by Catsrus (A)
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