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1 posted on 10/12/2014 6:20:37 AM PDT by BobL
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Ping


2 posted on 10/12/2014 6:24:28 AM PDT by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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I’ve already started! The sh## is officially about to hit the fan!


3 posted on 10/12/2014 6:24:29 AM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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When you mentioned the bathtub water containers were in short supply, I looked some up (I have the waterBOB, which is out of stock, currently):

http://www.amazon.com/Emergency-Drinking-Water-Storage-AquaPodKit/dp/B004X7ORCS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413120708&sr=8-1&keywords=AquaPodKit

http://www.amazon.com/Reservoir-Emergency-Storage-System-Gallons/dp/B00DOMOCCI/ref=pd_sbs_sg_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=17SQ5PK4XVY82YRZZYQD

http://www.amazon.com/Augason-FarmsTM-Emergency-Water-Storage/dp/B006OW4FVI/ref=pd_sbs_sg_7?ie=UTF8&refRID=17SQ5PK4XVY82YRZZYQD


5 posted on 10/12/2014 6:35:34 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To-date, Clorox brand bleach is the only liquid bleach you can decode the manufacturing date for the purposes of 'freshness', as it degrades at a predictable rate (you cannot store it long term and must be cycled, at best every few months to preserve its disinfecting properties by concentration).

See here

https://www.clorox.com/dr-laundry/expiration-date/

The best way to identify the age of a bottle is to use the production code stamped on the neck of the bottle, which typically looks like this:

A8116010

5813-CA3

The top line provides the information on when it was produced, which would be A8-1-160-10 (if you added dashes). You only need the first 6 digits and you read it from left to right as follows:

Plant Number—Last digit of year made—Day of the year made

A8 1 160

The bleach in this example was made in 2011 on June 9th, the 160th day of the year.

I'm still experimenting with using Calcium Hypochlorite as a dry, stable & store able medium for making bleach on-demand; maybe other FReepers can validate that method.

7 posted on 10/12/2014 6:43:10 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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We are always ready to be independent for a long period but we did get the masks and gloves last week as they will disappear if even a few more people start coming down with Ebola.


9 posted on 10/12/2014 6:44:54 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Have toilet paper, and a gun to keep it.


11 posted on 10/12/2014 6:48:18 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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Don’t use lawn and trash bags as your water container/can liner. I’ve read (some of) these are treated with pesticides. Not sure about the white/kitchen type liners...of their food grade quality.


12 posted on 10/12/2014 6:50:03 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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Sales of gas masks, bio-hazard suits and foil blankets soar as ‘survivalists’ prepare for Ebola epidemic - and warn others to store water

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2789194/stock-drinking-water-don-t-answer-door-neighbours-ebola-outbreak-advice-issued-families-sales-home-infection-control-kits-soar.html


13 posted on 10/12/2014 6:51:02 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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Lots of money, then you’ll be able to buy whatever else you want or need.


15 posted on 10/12/2014 6:54:18 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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ping


16 posted on 10/12/2014 6:55:06 AM PDT by null and void ("Agoraphobia": fear of the marketplace; "AlGoreaphobia": fear of the marketplace of ideas.)
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Add hand sanitizer, bleach, gloves, goggles, full up rain gear and face masks...

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

18 posted on 10/12/2014 6:57:23 AM PDT by null and void ("Agoraphobia": fear of the marketplace; "AlGoreaphobia": fear of the marketplace of ideas.)
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Bing


19 posted on 10/12/2014 6:57:42 AM PDT by jetson (S)
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Learn to eat like a Mexican. Simple flour tortillas, beans, rice, eggs( keep a few chickens), onions and hominy.
20 posted on 10/12/2014 7:01:00 AM PDT by jetson (S)
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Bookmark.


26 posted on 10/12/2014 7:14:31 AM PDT by moovova
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bttt


32 posted on 10/12/2014 7:39:27 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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The second Obola case here gave direct care to our first case.This is consistent with what we've seen in the West African epicenter.If evidence emerges that it's as easy to catch Obola as a common cold (cold sufferer sneezes into his hand,touches a doorknob,you touch the doorknob soon thereafter and then rub your eyes) then it's reasonable for us to be afraid.I haven't seen evidence that that's the case.Not yet at least.
34 posted on 10/12/2014 8:01:32 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Islamopobia:The Irrational Fear Of Being Beheaded)
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Make your own bleach using Calcium Hypochlorite (pool shock). Calcium Hypochlorite has a long shelf life and one pound will make gallons of bleach.

Better than Bleach: Use Calcium Hypochlorite to Disinfect Water.

http://survivaltopics.com/better-than-bleach-use-calcium-hypochlorite-to-disinfect-water/


41 posted on 10/12/2014 8:48:20 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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Your only hope:


44 posted on 10/12/2014 8:52:06 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Zimmerman, Brown, Fast & Furious, IRS harassment, Philly ignorance: holdering in 1st degree)
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Honestly, if you’re just raising your preps level NOW, you’re already well behind the power curve.

We’ve just done our usual fall stock-up for the winter, as the wife hates driving in snow (and isn’t particularly good at it, either). Our actual worry is a the worse-than-usual forecast for the winter: we were snowed in for 10 days during the “Snowpocalypse” here in the DC area. . .


46 posted on 10/12/2014 8:53:42 AM PDT by Salgak (Peace through Superior Firepower. . . .)
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There are two essential factors to consider with Ebola.

1) The timetable of the disease. If you can break its timetable, with one exception, the disease is over.

To start with, an infected person may have from 2 to 21 days before their symptoms emerge, leaning towards sooner, so practically within 4 days. So about one month is the maximum time needed for an absolute quarantine.

And a real weak point of Ebola is that it is only marginally infectious until the infected person is showing symptoms. From that point, it is about 10 days before they die. And for 5 of those days, they are probably flat on their back.

So the functional time limit for an infected person to spread the disease to other than medical people and those that dispose of their remains is just five days.

Let’s say that you are buttoned up in a safe place. Somebody pays you a visit, so you insist that they spend a week in a guest house, communicating electronically, before they meet a living person. If things are really bad, they can be your visitor for a month before you greet them.

2) The exception to the rule is physical contamination, which for Ebola can last longer than it can within a person.

Fortunately, Ebola is not a hardy virus, so can be killed with most disinfectants, and even UV light. Which means that a UV light is a very important piece of equipment.


54 posted on 10/12/2014 9:21:03 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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