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2nd person who got ebola was wearing FULL PROTECTIVE GEAR as recommended by the CDC per presser!

Posted on 10/12/2014 5:54:04 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

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To: Jim Noble

What is reality is that the dominant paradigm in the industry just got blown up and we are moving into a phase of real, serious crisis, which will be accelerated by the flooding of our borders with refugees from Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea, most of whom are incubating disease (not sick yet), and who will therefore sail through the screening.


So obvious and yet nothing is done. What can we do? Republicans call for stopping the flights, all Americans want them stopped. Do we need to march? What?


261 posted on 10/12/2014 9:29:07 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Which is why I turned them off. Brokaw ended the segment by claiming that ISIS is a bigger threat to us now.

I have a Kimber to defend myself from potential ISIS threats.....the Kimber will not work so well against ebola.


262 posted on 10/12/2014 9:29:39 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA

But you can’t catch it riding on a bus!


263 posted on 10/12/2014 9:29:59 AM PDT by knak (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Kids today are not taught much history. We were and lots of it. We were not allowed to forget bad things for fear that we would more easily repeat them.

In 1955 it had been:

37 years since WWII
37 years since the 1918 Flu
26 years since the start of the Great Depression
16 years since Pearl Harbor
10 years since dropping the first Atomic Bomb and the end of WWII
2 years since the truce in Korea

In 2014 it has been:

59 years since 1955
50 years since the Gulf of Tonkin incident and the start of Vietnam
46 years since the ML King riots that lasted most of the year
41 years since Nixon was impeached and left office
39 years since the Vietnam war ended with the capture of Saigon
23 years since the first Middle East War
13 years since 9/11
6 years since the beginning of the Second Dark Ages


264 posted on 10/12/2014 9:33:20 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (There is no collateral damage.)
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To: Yaelle
Republicans call for stopping the flights

I must have missed that.

Boehner did? McConnell did? Romney did? Shuster did (Transportation)? Upton (Health) did?

265 posted on 10/12/2014 9:34:32 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: SE Mom
Third paragraph “another person also remains in isolation. ..”

Either stupid reporter tricks or stupid CDC tricks. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. If there isn't another now, it's pretty much a guarantee there will be soon thanks to obola.

266 posted on 10/12/2014 9:34:37 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: jimbo123

How can they even know it was the second visit that exposed this worker?

Duncan had to have the virus on his 1ST visit to the ER when no one had CDC level IV gear on and he was examined and released with a 103 fever and a handful of antibiotics.

OBOLA FAIL !!


267 posted on 10/12/2014 9:40:17 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Yikes, did you see him take a deep breath, look at the ceiling and bug out his eyes before stating he’s confident with the CDC protocol. Lie!


268 posted on 10/12/2014 9:40:41 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: bgill

Let’s just say it did not inspire confidence.


269 posted on 10/12/2014 9:50:44 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA; bgill

At some point these news conferences will be reined in and handled at the White House.


270 posted on 10/12/2014 9:54:08 AM PDT by John W (Autumn of Recovery VI: This Time We're Serious)
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To: John W

When I see the head of the CDC all I can think is, “Liar, liar, pants on fire.”


271 posted on 10/12/2014 10:00:55 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: John W

I just ordered some N100 masks.....many sellers on Amazon are sold out so I cannot be the only one.


272 posted on 10/12/2014 10:02:14 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: highpockets
The Dr. Who was answering questions from the press was finally told to stop and was lead away from the podium.

OK, just to liven things up your statement made me think of one of these guys!


273 posted on 10/12/2014 10:06:35 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: John W
Ah, we don't have a lot of room for "at some points with this.

It's about ta get real.

Duncan having, getting and dying for ebola didn't cause too much havoc. Nobody, probably, outside of the Liberian fringe community knew him and travelled in those circles.

This is an American nurse. Maybe with preschool kids. Maybe with a sister and brothers who live and work in upper class Dallas suburban neighborhoods. She likely has hairdressers, cleaning ladies, a favorite barrista at the coffee shop...

A few more cases like this--it's breakdown time.

274 posted on 10/12/2014 10:08:29 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: SE Mom

I suspect there is something happening statistically allowing periodic exposure by air transmission,...not necessarily airborne.

Like the pig-monkey experiment in Canada a few years back where not all monkeys became infected concurrently, but half of them did acquire the transmission from the isolated piglets, and later the others acquired it, again without fomite or direct contact.

Maybe its a blossoming unencapsulated virions, only happening periodically, infecting some percentage.

When exposed to higher concentrations, such as a corpse of obvious contagious stages, then without PPE infection is near certain without antibodies. Meanwhile, not everybody gets it immediately if temporarily exposed.


275 posted on 10/12/2014 10:08:33 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Jim Noble

They are supposed to go through Decontaminatiion prior to removal of PPE.


276 posted on 10/12/2014 10:13:21 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
that magic number of 21 has been overused..

No it hasn't.

Every human being is different. 21 days is a very conservative estimate of a 95% confidence interval that you will develop symptoms if exposed, within two standard deviations. The measured standard deviation is 4.3 days. For "most" people (~70%) symptoms will develop between 8 and 12 days of infection.

If you stop isolating people after only 12 days, 30% of infected patients are going to be turned loose into general population. Some studies are now recommending 25 days.

277 posted on 10/12/2014 10:15:20 AM PDT by FredZarguna (His first name is 'Unarmed,' and his given middle name is 'Teenager.')
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To: Neoliberalnot
They are supposed to go through Decontaminatiion prior to removal of PPE.

What is your source for that?

278 posted on 10/12/2014 10:16:59 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: FredZarguna

25 days of isolation would be a good number to use to err on the side of caution.


279 posted on 10/12/2014 10:17:57 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: FredZarguna

that’s not what I meant..

they are saying that is takes 21 days for Ebola to show up..

that’s not true..

it can be within days..

I bet if those passengers were given a blood test it would show up no matter how much Motrin they take to hide a fever...


280 posted on 10/12/2014 10:18:57 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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