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ISIS Guide Explains How To Shoot Down US Apache Helicopters
IBT ^ | 10/8/14 | Christopher Harress

Posted on 10/08/2014 3:56:33 PM PDT by Kartographer

Just days after the United States began using Apache helicopters against the Islamic State group in Iraq, ISIS has responded by producing a guide to shooting down the iconic aircraft. The guide, which has been circulating on social media, explains in minute detail how to use portable surface-to-air missiles, such as the Russian-made SA-16 and SA-18 and the American FIM-92 Stinger, against the attack helicopter.

The Stinger was heavily used during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in the 1980s, when the shoulder-fired missiles provided by the U.S. to mujahideen fighters proved very effective at shooting down Soviet helicopters. They also saw use against Russian aircraft during the first and second Chechen wars, which took place from 1994 to 1996 and 1999 to 2009, respectively. The guide will serve as a reminder for the ISIS fighters who took part in those conflicts before joining the ranks of the Sunni extremist group in Iraq and Syria. For new recruits, the guide is a detailed primer on how to target successfully the Apaches by defeating their countermeasures.

(Excerpt) Read more at ibtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: iraq; isis; manpad
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To: rdcbn

Do you have a credible source for that? I’d love to see it.

Strangely enough, these are the exact missiles that the Obama Administration, and Qatar transferred to ISIS via Benghazi through a Turkish intermediary.


21 posted on 10/08/2014 4:34:59 PM PDT by superfries
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To: NormsRevenge

“U.S. officials with access to the latest U.S. intelligence on Iraq told Fox News it “appears likely/probable” that U.S.-made Stinger missiles have fallen into the hands of Sunni insurgents.

It is possible that the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) fighters acquired them from army bases they have taken over in recent days, the sources said.

The Stinger missile is a shoulder-fired surface-to-air weapon that is used against aircraft.

As ISIS forces have advanced through Iraq, concerns have increased that more U.S.-made weaponry could fall into the hands of the radical group.”


22 posted on 10/08/2014 4:36:09 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
That's smoke from an Iraqi military attack helicopter.

Did we give Iraq some Apaches?

Even if we did, our training methods are just a bit more comprehensive than theirs, I would guess.

23 posted on 10/08/2014 4:37:07 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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To: KeyLargo

Have they checked BadDudesinBlackw/Oil.com and Amazon lately,, I could buy all kinds of stuff that could do almost as much damage. ;-)

They dont call it a black market for nuttin’.


24 posted on 10/08/2014 4:39:32 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

During the VietNam War the Russians provided pilots, equipment and training to the NVA and VietCong on how to shoot down U.S. military aircraft and they were effective.

Since the break up of the Soviet Union there are thousands of former KGB and Russian military specialists all over the world employed in such roles today.


25 posted on 10/08/2014 4:41:49 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Did we leave behind shoulder fireds for Iraq to use as part of the new booty for ISIS?

If so, why? To sell on the black market?


26 posted on 10/08/2014 4:41:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: KeyLargo

I always wanted to shoot a LAW. Maybe take out a vacant SUV when its grazing.. I hate long shots. Personal is better. ;-)

Personally, I hope we crunch some nuts and soon or the friendly skies will be few and far between in the middle east.


27 posted on 10/08/2014 4:44:40 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Steely Tom

Good article about U.S. military advisers training Iraq Air Force pilots.

http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/digital/pdf/articles/2014-May-Jun/SLP-keltz.pdf


28 posted on 10/08/2014 4:47:27 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
Thanks

This makes me mad at a guttural level.

29 posted on 10/08/2014 4:50:18 PM PDT by MileHi
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To: NormsRevenge

“I always wanted to shoot a LAW. Maybe take out a vacant SUV when its grazing.. I hate long shots. Personal is better. ;-)”

A little practical demonstration for you here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8b3963VRW4


30 posted on 10/08/2014 4:52:07 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Reminds me of my yout’! In boot camp!


31 posted on 10/08/2014 4:57:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Is the lifetime of a MANPAD classified? STingers had a Use IT BY Date or such..

Their batteries only last so long but there seems to be more than just a battery life issue. Otherwise, why with so many reportedly in circulation amongst terrorist groups aren't more being used?

32 posted on 10/08/2014 5:03:55 PM PDT by fso301
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To: NormsRevenge
A dumb ass Ordnance Lieutenant took some of us out to the range at Ft. Lewis back in 1966 to shoot an old M-20A-1 3.5 inch rocket launcher. We had NO ear protection and my first shot with the dummy round took out one of the bleacher benches. I could not hear a thing for a week. :)

The Korean War vintage 3.5 inch Rocket Launcher called the Super Bazooka

33 posted on 10/08/2014 5:08:45 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: fso301

Maybe global warming makes them deteriorate faster?

No telling how already have been used..

WE Should be so lucky.


34 posted on 10/08/2014 5:43:07 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: KeyLargo

Thank goodness none of my Army brothers ever brought a bazooka home. Lol

MP, Screaming Eagle, Motor Pool

Life was a lot simpler in the 60s and 70s..


35 posted on 10/08/2014 5:45:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: BBell

>We should have never armed the mujahideen.<

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We should have never befriended Islam but should have treated it the way our medieval European ancestors did.


36 posted on 10/08/2014 5:49:00 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The way the MSM is probably never. Even if clear evidence where to sent to every news desk in the nation it would probably not be reported, except for on Fox and the independent news sites.


37 posted on 10/08/2014 6:04:50 PM PDT by BBell (I'm cynical and sarcastic and therefore I love Ann Coulter)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
To: P-Marlowe; Raptor; Lancey Howard; jazusamo; bigheadfred; Jim Robinson; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
They keep asking why the US gov't is trying to keep this quiet.

The 20,000 missing MANPADS: It was on Free Republic at about the time these men were killed on about 9/12.

Jennifer Griffin reported again yesterday what was discussed on FR over a month ago. Obama allowed the Muslim Brotherhood and their al quaeda pals access to 20,000 manpads, one man anti-aircraft, shoulder-fired missiles with capabilities of defeating current commerical counter-measures. I know the article is here on Free Republic because I participated in the discussion....and I think Lancey did, and I think you did too. (See below)

The American special operators, Woods, Doherty and at least two others were part of the Global Response Staff, a CIA element, based at the CIA annex and were protecting CIA operators who were part of a mission to track and repurchase arms in Benghazi that had proliferated in the wake of Muammar Qaddafi's fall. Part of their mission was to find the more than 20,000 missing MANPADS, or shoulder-held missiles capable of bringing down a commercial aircraft. According to a source on the ground at the time of the attack, the team inside the CIA annex had captured three Libyan attackers and was forced to hand them over to the Libyans. U.S. officials do not know what happened to those three attackers and whether they were released by the Libyan forces. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say/#ixzz2AQLj6krm

20,000 missing manpads can bring commercial air traffic to a halt, just about world wide.

THIS is what Obama is trying to hide. It is plausible to assume THIS is what led to NO rescue for these men, and why they were WANTED dead.

A media report on Obama's 20,000 missing anti-aircraft missiles has the ability to bring down Obama.

68 posted on 10/27/2012 9:05:40 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/posts?page=68#68

38 posted on 10/08/2014 6:15:21 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Kartographer; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Active Duty ping.


39 posted on 10/08/2014 6:18:56 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: Kartographer

Did they use Hillary Clinton’s Book Publisher?


40 posted on 10/08/2014 6:46:47 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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