Posted on 10/05/2014 12:43:21 PM PDT by FlJoePa
With all the recent court decisions siding in JVP's favor, I felt it a good time to boil this down to the bare truth. Cef gives it to you here if you want to listen.
Ok, so we are to believe in all sorts of elaborate theories about who knew what, and when, but with regard to Paterno? Absolutely not! He knew nothing, he was told nothing, and he did nothing because he knew nothing and was told nothing. But everyone else knew . . . hop on the merry-go-round, folks.
I care less that paterno was white. I do care he knew bout this and didn’t use his influence, which was considerable, to stop this. One public statement from him would have ended this.
What was Joe Paterno promising not to blow the whistle on? NCAA violations by others? All head coaches are involved in recruiting. Some are involved in recruiting violations. Rival coaches know about each others’ peccadilloes as to NCAA rules. Generally, it is beneath their dignity to go tattling to nanny NCAA. That does NOT mean silence as to the likes of Sandusky. Paterno obeyed his contract with the university and reported a suspected (reported days after the fact by McQueary who could not get his story straight) problem up the Penn State chain of command. That chain of command then played cover up. Apples and coal lumps.
My love for Paul Bear Bryant is just as great if not greater than that of the Paterno cult towards Joe Paterno. But if Bear Bryant had been aware of this going on in Tuscaloosa and had done nothing about it, then I would have been the first one calling for his head.
My love for Crimson Tide football does not trump my love for the innocence and protection of children. Apparently in State College, PA, they see things differently.
If the decision were left to me, I would raze the entire campus and cover the soil with a foot of salt. Then I would take pictures from space to remind the world how the only thing necessary for evil to succeed is when good men do nothing.
Let me try this again...Until McQuerry told Paterno what he saw in the shower, Paterno did not know that Sandusky was doing little boys in 2001. If you have ANY evidence that Paterno was up to date with the Sandusky activities at that point time in 2001, please share it with everybody here on FreeRepublic. Without any evidence that Paterno knew of the Sandusky activities before he was informed of said activities by McQuerry, then you are just contributing to the slander that has been going on against the fine man that Joe Paterno was...
Well, I guess it’s ok, then. Paterno told his boss. It’s not like this was a serious matter . . . only the minimum effort was necessary. Besides, Sandusky was his buddy. /s
Ok, so the PSU football program is not the Navy, I get it . . . but the honorable thing for Paterno to do would have been to resign. Instead, he decided to try and ride it out. Like a politician. And like a politician, trash.
And again, you focus on Paterno alone. If Paterno did something wrong or omitted to do something morally required of him, fine, punish him and his reputation. Now, let's get the REST of the story, as well. Or is there some rule that only Paterno be punished? Don't you care about those running the Second Mile Foundation? Or Graham Spanier and his administration marionettes who were making Penn State "the most gay friendly campus" in our land who gave the retired Sandusky his own office and 24/7/365 access to university athletic facilities where many of his crimes against young boys occurred? Or the University Police who knew but took little or no action? Or others I mentioned above?
Nope! It was Paterno and only Paterno. Those other guys knew nothing, suspected nothing, were told nothing and, most importantly, DID nothing.
Besides, who ever heard of any of these guys OTHER than Paterno BEFORE the Sandusky scandal? Keith Olberman would keep this story simple: Paterno BAD! Everyone else? There was no one else. Simple theory, right? And you WANT a simple theory? No elaboration. No complication. Just a simple sound bite. Truth be damned! Full speed ahead.
Try your preference for simplicity in a courtroom some time, as a party, as a witness, whatever, but bring a platter for your head after it gets handed to you.
Let me tell you what I know. I know that a grown man having the name of a football coach for his screen name is a bit weird. I also know that lawsuits can be filed by anyone for any reason - and that our court system is so screwed up the result of a trial means nothing as far as truth is concerned.
But again, tell me about the open secret in State College PA about Sandusky, even a lewd named sandwich in his honor at a local sandwich shop.
He made a phone call? Great. Back to the game!
FlJoePa I believe is correct that a lot of this anti-Paterno sentiment is due to the fact that Paterno was a famous white guy, and this country has been tearing down famous white guys for the last decade or so...
Hilarious. Now we're racists?
My love for Crimson Tide football does not trump my love for the innocence and protection of children. Apparently in State College, PA, they see things differently.
Yeah, and sadly, some on Free Republic don't see it that way either. Amazing.
He followed the law...If he took any other action, he would have, BROKEN, the law...are you suggesting that he should have taken a shotgun and blown Sandusky’s head off?
What action should Paterno have taken?
It hardly ever is enforced nowadays but there is a crime of "misprision of a felony" which might have been applicable here if it could have been proven that any witness knew (not suspected, not had heard or any other mush) that a felony had actually been committed by a known individual. Everyone KNEW Sandusky but, on what evidence there was at the time of the crimes, no one but Sandusky and his victims actually SAW his crimes. McQueary and the janitor are both verrrry flawed witnesses. No one wanted to pursue anyone else which might have brought forth more evidence against who knows whom? But, you know, there are people who agree with the Keith Olberman approach and its simplicity.
Paterno should have realized that “I wash my hands of this situation” is an even worse excuse than “I was only following orders”.
I know a major FB college coach and his mention to me was “How could you not know?”.
When did he do that?
He didn’t do that.
You asked what he should have done.
Also, do you ever hear him mention the victims of Joe Paterno’s enabling of Sandusky’s pedophilia? Nope.
...this is a troubling point...and some of the most vociferous Paterno apologists are quite dismissive of the victims and their testimonies, even to the point where a handful question whether Sandusky committed any molestation at all, in order to justify the contention that Paterno did no wrong...
...I sympathize with the OP’s motives, as the preponderance of Paterno’s body of work mark him as a fine individual, with a great track record of positive personal inpacts...and for that matter, Cefalo himself was a pretty straight up guy known for speaking his mind, popular or not...
...but I do think the OP has shown himself to be incapable of distinguishing between reasoned scrutiny and slanderous bashing...explaining some of his more vehement posts...
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What’s that, evidence? I guess it’s true then. Thank you for posting that...Everything is solved...
Now, let's get the REST of the story, as well. Or is there some rule that only Paterno be punished?
Gosh, maybe we could find a FReeper who specializes in posting PSU stuff to do it.
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