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1 posted on 09/29/2014 6:34:51 PM PDT by Smellin Salt
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Another thing. In my Graduate Teaching Assistant training, a senior professor was talking about how grieved professors are that students don’t think critically anymore. They just adopt the opinion of experts. She gave the example of global warming. This is at the most liberal college in the Big 12. If your daughters have well reasoned, rigorous decent, they’ll be respected.


24 posted on 09/29/2014 6:53:32 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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If possible, use the process against them. Keep email records of everything, especially those where they make snarky remarks. It is quite possible they may do this, even if your daughter (respectfully) questions him/her. Ask questions about the syllabus via email and see if they deviate due to bias.

If you approach the Dean, make sure you have everything documented. The fact that you did this will make them (and the Professor) very nervous.


25 posted on 09/29/2014 6:54:44 PM PDT by rbg81
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DO NOT complain to the prof or dean. I can almost guarantee blowback and a bad grade. Not to mention the flying monkey activists they use.

Get her to record the profs and then send to this site:

http://www.campusreform.org/

Tell her to be discreet and anonymous.


27 posted on 09/29/2014 6:56:20 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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I run at a CC and have for years. On my walk to and from my car I can see a picture of Hillary in a window and it has been there for years. Whoever put it there has been waiting a long time for the beast to return to the WH. It is truly a scary thought that they might soon get their way.


29 posted on 09/29/2014 6:58:27 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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One of the colleges recruiting my daughter sent a mailer bragging about its new “QUEER” student union as if that is something you want to brag about.

SICK!


31 posted on 09/29/2014 7:00:35 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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Forget the Dean.

Have your daughters record the diatribes with her iPhone and then send the juiciest to your local Fox News Station, requesting anonymity of course.

That will put both the professor AND the Dean on the defensive, and you can just sit back and watch the fireworks.


33 posted on 09/29/2014 7:04:15 PM PDT by tom h
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In one daughter’s college writing course the course was taught using feminist theory and gender theory to work with different paradigms of critical theory review.

My daughter and I worked the course together for she was a high school junior and could not follow the readings initially. So I read along with her. We would read together, discuss and she would write.

One day she brought home an especially obtuse set of questions. I read them, we read them, we researched them, and then we suddenly realized that the professor did not understand the theories and that the questions were based on her misunderstanding of the papers.

After that little juncture, we basically strung together and bullS****ed the rest of the papers because none of it was real.

What did my daughter learn? That sacred cows need to be ignored, and how people who are on the cutting edge, sometimes are just following a pack. And sometimes it is ok just to dish the sh** back, get a good grade and move on. Stupidity exists.


34 posted on 09/29/2014 7:06:48 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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You want to know what you can do to stop this crap in the academy? Bring your kids up with the realization that a ‘college’ education is completely unnecessary today. Unless the kids want a profession, forget the sociology degree. America needs people that can do things and people who are motivated to make dreams come true. Entrepreneurialism and a good set of technical skills will serve a flexible individual better than trying to pimp a sheepskin in crowded unemployment lines. When people get dialed in to this, the slack in college enrollment will put pressure on staff roles and performance criteria.

Just my $0.02.

35 posted on 09/29/2014 7:08:14 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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is there any way she can take a test and challenge the course?
37 posted on 09/29/2014 7:12:16 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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Wait until your kids are out of their courses and out of the school.

Then figure out where their funding comes from. If it is from their state get some video or audio recordings of them saying something bad. Kick them in their funding. That’s the only thing that will have an effect.


38 posted on 09/29/2014 7:12:28 PM PDT by ladyjane
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I am a "non-traditional" student, having just earned my BGS, now in the MSW program, and I'm nearly at the age of retirement. Most of these kids have no idea who Marx was, so it isn't hard to indoctrinate them into the collectivist mindset. I suppose the social work field embraces that viewpoint, but I am determined to graduate with my ethics intact. Believe me, I have to swallow a lot of gruel, but I shall persevere.

Nevertheless, this is an opportune time for them to fine-tune their knowledge base, grasp the worldview that has a stranglehold on this nation, and choose their "battles" carefully. They should raise their hand and question incongruities. "What if..." questions about the inevitable failure of policies or positions on the issues. They need to challenge "facts" presented to them, with valid research and documentation to back them up.

As much as we might like to turn-tail and run back into the comfort zone of like-minded individuals, this is the world we -- and more importantly they -- have to confront. They might well plant a seed in another students' garden. They may well find many are like-minded, but don't know others sitting next to them feel the same way.

Yes, private schools are always an option, and are especially important in elementary and secondary education. They may well earn their undergrad or graduate degree within the cloak of comfort. But the challenge of exposing the fallacies of the left will remain, and will continue to grow in strength exponentially in a short period of time (look how far we've come since the 1990's...).

As far as grades go, for the most part they will probably need to regurgitate the pablum they've been fed; but their contribution of questioning the status-quo during class, and in social opportunities to provide an "alternative" viewpoint, will reap future benefits we can only imagine.

Just my 2 cents worth.

40 posted on 09/29/2014 7:17:30 PM PDT by fone (@ the breaking point!)
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Hillsdale College is one answer. Otherwise, just understand that the “professor” is an @$$ and just get through the course without harming the G.P.A. Then move on to better things.


44 posted on 09/29/2014 7:19:47 PM PDT by Sasparilla
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As a 55yo adult, I took a PE class at the local CC...Essentially training for a marathon. We would do intervals. Something like 4 x 400 with a 2-3min recovery. During the recovery period, while we were all standing around trying to catch our breath, the “professor”/coach would launch into vile, anti, Bush screed.

After the third time, I caught him alone during a break...Told him I was there for PE, was interested in his views of Anaerobic Threshold AT (exercise science) and I had zero interest in his political rants and that if he continued I’d talk to the dean!

Never heard another word.


45 posted on 09/29/2014 7:30:43 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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There is not much you can do. ThA liberal professor can ruin your daughter’s future by giving her a bad grade out of spite. Her best course is to listen and nod and then go about her life.


46 posted on 09/29/2014 7:30:53 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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You can’t fight them all

So if you want to take action, look for the worst of the bunch and target just one. Its up to you to decide if they have crossed a line somehow, and how you will gather evidence, and to whom you will present your case.


47 posted on 09/29/2014 7:56:38 PM PDT by PGR88
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Unless your daughters are taking political science courses I would suggest to you or to them to politely and pointedly tell these professors that they/you are paying their salaries to get an education in the courses they chose and are not paying to listen to some liberal professors half ass political views anymore than you would pay a plumber to fix your sink and instead get a bill from him on his political thoughts.


48 posted on 09/29/2014 7:58:16 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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#2 is right.

The dean hired the guy in all probability. If he didn’t, he supported hiring him actively or passively.

The attitude of the staff is a reflection of the attitude of the management. Consider the source.

What can you do? Probably nothing.

People know about crimes in the administration and say nothing. A much bigger issue than a liberal instructor in a JUCO. Why do they remain silent? Because they have already seen in the FandF testimony, the justice department whistle blower early in the administration and the poor slobs that spilled their guts about Benghazi...... Nothing happened. There was no champion of right to act and protect them. Nothing was done. The inmates are running the prison and have broken into the population.

There is no standard of right and wrong. Anything goes. The do whatever feels good libs are in charge and it is too far gone to turn around. This is why I now am actually happy about each new and growing outrage. It just makes the end that much closer. Decent people are not outraged enough yet to take collective decisive action. I offer Vaughn in Moore, Oklahoma as evidence. He should have killed that animal when he had a chance. He was too soft to do it though.

I am sorry for your problem but I doubt a thing can be done. I am very sad for all of us.


49 posted on 09/29/2014 8:07:46 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (I)
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First, I'm pleased to hear from someone else who has seen with their own eyes just how ridiculously far out the situation in our colleges has become. It did not get this way overnight, and there are at least a few reasons to be hopeful.

Since it's way too easy to go off on tangents when right thinking people try to discuss these things, let me try to draw a bead on the heart of the problem, without getting lost in the details on how it got this way.

What you are witnessing is a triumph of a philosophy of education called "experimentalism," and in particular one flavor of one kind of experimentalism that was given the emotive label "progressive" when it's designers first began a slow march through our institutions more than a century ago.

One big problem we have in trying to tackle this monster is the simple fact that even most of our teachers do not know what "philosophy of education" they've signed on to, nor do they or most parents know that every teaching professional is required to adopt this single flavor of experimentalism as their own philosophy of education - to the exclusion of all others - in order to receive a license to teach. It's one of the largest, unrecognized scandals in the history of this country, centered on our teacher colleges, where only a handful of the most esoteric professors are even aware of what is going on.

Leaving a lot of "stuff" on the sidelines, the problem on a federal level can be addressed with the defunding and sunset of the Department of Education.

On the state level we need to always return to the source, the monopoly of one kind of a single philosophy of education hidden right out in the open by the colleges that teach our teachers.

Once we draw the monster out the open, reform can begin. Before that, the whole education institution, on an international level, is arrayed against its own reform, and we'll be tilting at windmills.

Just some thoughts, explaining where I think the battle could be won, and why I think such a battle would take at least a generation.

54 posted on 09/29/2014 8:44:27 PM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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I’d be happy your kids want to keep going. My daughter couldn’t take it anymore after her first year.

I kept telling her to just write the BS papers they wanted to see. Pretend you agree. But it was intolerable and I knew it. That was when the teachers actually showed up for class, far too many days she’d show up ready for class and there’d be a note stuck on the door about another cancelled class.


56 posted on 09/29/2014 9:02:31 PM PDT by moehoward
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If you can’t beat’em then make a fortune off of them...
seriously. Several years ago the junior college located
40 miles from my little home town placed a branch campus
here. Across the road from the campus a group started a
co-op, organic/natural food store complete with a deli
(can you smell the warm curry chicken dish?). These
people knew that junior colleges are magnets for all the
local left wing nuts and that the enrollees include
much, much more than recent high school grads. This store
is always packed. Envision some of the lefty types who
hang at your local library and you get the picture. The
store is like a Trader Joes on steroids.

All the stupid liberal JCs and their commie teachers
need some place to deposit their ill gotten money and
you could be laughing all the bank over it. Open a
store.


57 posted on 09/29/2014 9:57:00 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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