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IMHO there is very little real talent left in popular music. The music industry can make a star out of anyone (think Disney).

My Daughters has you tube videos of people from all over the world who are truly talented but will never see the inside of a studio. A good number of the local bands where I am at are very good yet no one outside of this area will ever hear of them.

1 posted on 09/07/2014 2:09:28 PM PDT by BBell
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"... “murdered” by the internet and the “entitled” Americans using it to steal music."

But somehow Katy Perry and Lady Gaga can make a living?

2 posted on 09/07/2014 2:15:04 PM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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File sharing is different from YouTube watching and listening.

YouTube at least makes the smallest fee available to the artists, while wholesale copying proves nothing to the artist.


3 posted on 09/07/2014 2:15:31 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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My wife was just asking about what rock had evolved into since the Grunge era. Neither of us could really identify a group or movement that really defines it today.

I don’t think file sharing really had a hand in it. It boils down to nothing that really has captured the imagination.


4 posted on 09/07/2014 2:16:15 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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I remember when rockers bitched about people who taped their songs off the radio.


6 posted on 09/07/2014 2:17:58 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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It was murdered by the suits. They did it numerous times. Rock and roll has probably “died” more times than Little Richard has retired (going back to 1957).


10 posted on 09/07/2014 2:22:07 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (ISIS has started up a slave trade in Iraq. Mission accomplshed, Barack, Mission accomplished.)
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Bad music and idiots wearing spandex hopping around on stage killed rock.


11 posted on 09/07/2014 2:22:49 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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I know teenagers who do not listen to music much at all. Except as background noise. Sitting and listening? Going to a concert? Paying for any of this????? No reason to make the effort -- that's not just my opinion; that's their opinion..

The music industry pretty much lost a generation, I think.

14 posted on 09/07/2014 2:23:43 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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Hey Gene,

I taped TONS of LP’s from my friends in the 70’s/80’s.

Did blank cassettes KILL rock???

OR maybe technology is being blamed for corporate music labels being greedy by dropping any group that doesn’t sell 10 million units on their debut while charging fans 18 bucks for a 10 cent CD???


15 posted on 09/07/2014 2:24:18 PM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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Bull.

Some bands upload their music for FREE on soundcloud and pack clubs every place they go. It’s the new way music is shared.


16 posted on 09/07/2014 2:25:13 PM PDT by struggle
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I don't know.

I think Rock hasn't died. It's just that the vein is tapped out. Everything that could be said was said over the 35 years or so that it was the number one expression of the experience of youth in western industrialized societies.

There's a British rocker named Steven Wilson who - IMHO - creates music in an idiom similar to that of The Who. Have you ever heard of him? A lot of his music is available on YouTube.

He's a successful musician in his own right, but he's not very influential because he's just too late on the scene with what he does.

No one has really figured out where the "thing" that Rock expressed goes next.

Personally, I think that there's a lot of untapped potential in the struggle against Islam, a force that enslaves hundreds of millions of people all over the world, and which is attempting to put the collar of slavery around the neck of the entire human race.

Only problem is, such music would place a bull's eye on the forehead of everyone who was involved in producing it.

19 posted on 09/07/2014 2:30:41 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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Used to make so many of my own music tapes...right off the radio!


21 posted on 09/07/2014 2:31:37 PM PDT by Dallas59
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There’s still some good rock out there, but it’s mostly underground and a few older alternative-era bands who are doing solid music that doesn’t get any airplay (Local H, Afghan Whigs, etc.)

Overall, though, I tend to agree that rock, if not dead, is awfully sick right now. Pop dominates the scene, in part because (IMHO) most pop is vapid, dance-oriented froth that works really well with the over-the-top visuals that have made megastars out of people like Gaga, Nicki Minaj, and so on. They learned the lesson of Madonna well.


22 posted on 09/07/2014 2:31:47 PM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo Man is always intense.)
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Fire fox and Downloadhelper....and Audacity.


24 posted on 09/07/2014 2:32:34 PM PDT by Dallas59
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What is called music today, is not music. I have music choice on cable and my favorites are Contemporary Christian and Oldies but Goldies or something lke that. Very few tv shows are worth watchng. I enjoy listening to the oldies from my childhood and teen years. Brings back a lot of memories.


26 posted on 09/07/2014 2:37:18 PM PDT by MamaB
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God Vine has a lot of good music, too.


27 posted on 09/07/2014 2:38:17 PM PDT by MamaB
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“IMHO there is very little real talent left in popular music.”

They are out there, but those that control the music industry aren’t really interested in them. And the ones that are out there do not have the quality of those just 10 or 15 years ago.

That’s why I listen to Postmodern Jukebox. They take current hits and significantly improve them. This group is very talented to say the least! They have over 100,000,000 views and over 600,000 subscribers.

Stay With Me - Vintage 1940s “Old Hollywood” Style Sam Smith Cover ft. Cristina Gatti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex8NBCuwcdA&list=UUORIeT1hk6tYBuntEXsguLg

Rude - Vintage 1950s Sock Hop - Style MAGIC! Cover ft. Von Smith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9yMXzARTZE&list=UUORIeT1hk6tYBuntEXsguLg

Womanizer - Vintage ‘40 Torch Song - Style Britney Spears Cover ft. Cristina Gatti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d1JrJtKqAQ&list=UUORIeT1hk6tYBuntEXsguLg&index=16

All of Me - Vintage Soul John Legend Cover ft. Kiah Victoria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXS52TSweKc&list=UUORIeT1hk6tYBuntEXsguLg&index=30

Pompeii - 1969 / Mad Men -Style Bastille Cover ft. Tony DeSare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJY83K3o670&list=UUORIeT1hk6tYBuntEXsguLg&index=34

Burn - Vintage ‘60s Girl Group Ellie Goulding Cover with Flame-O-Phone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZY9_Xr5XPA&index=37&list=UUORIeT1hk6tYBuntEXsguLg

Say Something - Jazz / Soul A Great Big World Cover ft. Hudson Thames
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZYGPn9iN1Y&index=40&list=UUORIeT1hk6tYBuntEXsguLg

Drunk in Love - Vintage Big Band / Swing Beyonce Cover ft. Cristina Gatti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtyoC7KuBDY&list=UUORIeT1hk6tYBuntEXsguLg&index=42

Team - “Sad Clown With The Golden Voice” Lorde Cover ft. Puddles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HtrbMy4mU4&list=UUORIeT1hk6tYBuntEXsguLg&index=44

Young and Beautiful - Vintage 1920’s Lana Del Rey / Great Gatsby Soundtrack Cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aNCBzax8Ec&index=50&list=UUORIeT1hk6tYBuntEXsguLg

Royals - (”Sad Clown With The Golden Voice” Version) - Lorde Cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBmCJEehYtU&list=UUORIeT1hk6tYBuntEXsguLg&index=56


28 posted on 09/07/2014 2:38:32 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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Meanwhile Brasil has been in a "Golden Age" of music with thousands of Pagode artists.

*Pfff* on this article. The industry is in a rut because it pushed (c)"rap". No one will buy it and an entire generation of artists were discarded in an attempt to promote filth. Many of us simply rejected them entirely and found better alternatives.

New version of Péricles' previous effort: Trajetória.

Videoclipe "Trajetória" - Ana Clara - participação especial Péricles

Péricles some 20 years ago with Grupo Exaltasamba

"I confess I love you, my love,

Look into my eyes,

I cannot live without you,

I never thought love could be like this,

I have no more words to say,

Baby, you were born for me..."

29 posted on 09/07/2014 2:41:42 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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I’ve heard that Gene Simmon’s real father is Jackie Mason. Is that true?


30 posted on 09/07/2014 2:41:53 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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The big music companies systematically killed pop music, because they were so insanely greedy about it. They would rather nobody made any money, than that anybody but them made money.

A great example was that for many years, recording contracts included a clause, unenforced, that composers and musicians were just “fee for hire” employees, like any minimum wage type employee, and that the music companies owned all the rights to their music, “and derivatives”, in perpetuity.

However, out of the blue, the music companies went to congress to get the law changed so that this clause was enforceable. If they, the music companies, felt like it.

And this was on top of the music companies demands that composers and musicians had to pay for all the production and editing, and pay for the actual printing of the music as well as the advertisement. Then the music companies would truck it to record stores, and give a small cut of their net to the composer/musician.

“You do all the work, you pay for all the work, and we get all the money. Sounds fair.”

Finally, one of the greatest advertising mediums for music existed with Music Television and VH1. But after years of giving the music companies high quality advertising FOR FREE, suddenly the music companies decided that Music Television had to pay them exorbitant royalties to show music videos. Which killed it dead.

Seriously, this was Daffy Duck quality greed.

But while it lasted, MTV and VH1 burned dozens of pop stars and hundreds of songs into the public consciousness. If you were to take somebody who was a teenager or older in the 1980s to name groups and artists, they could whip out dozens. In the ‘90’s, maybe a dozen. In the 2000’s maybe just a few.

So who is going to buy music sound unheard?


37 posted on 09/07/2014 2:48:40 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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My two oldest probably went to 8-10 concerts this summer, and two festivals so far, another coming up next weekend. All of them were sold out or very full. They are hard rock or indie fans and there is good rock and roll in a million different directions still being made. They play stuff for me, introduce me to bands.

They are typical young people with a religious mama who has taught them not to steal, even intellectual property, and the bands they really love, they WANT to support with their dollars. Some bands sell special at-the-concert-only versions of their records —— YES, VINYL RECORDS ARE IN IN IN NOW AGAIN - and they sell like hot cakes. That said, I know my techie guys do some file sharing, but they do say that a lot of musicians do promote their own file sharing. I bought them a Spotify subscription to help keep them from file sharing, too. Performing is alive and well, though. Merchandise is huge too.

Last night they went to see a real favorite, Coheed & Cambria. They’ve seen them about four times too. Last night they paid for the meet and greet so they could get their new vinyls signed and get official photos with the band.

No fear, the millennials are still into rock! And bummed that us Xers got rid of our old albums!


40 posted on 09/07/2014 2:52:34 PM PDT by Yaelle
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