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Don't worry folks; Putin is not invading Kiev.
Vanity | Dangus

Posted on 09/02/2014 8:26:19 AM PDT by dangus

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1 posted on 09/02/2014 8:26:19 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

I think Russia’s Military is getting their Butts kicked


2 posted on 09/02/2014 8:28:25 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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Now that Obama has removed the US Marines and the US Army, (Obamacode: “boots on the ground”), from the Russian and Militant Muslim Theaters of War, both Russia and the Militant Muslims know that they are assured of quickly obtaining ground control of the Eastern Mediterranean.

Both the Russians and the Militant Muslims know that their rapid ground advances will end once the Impeachment Proceedings begin on Obama.

Russia needs to have land and Naval control of the north shore of the Black Sea and western Turkey in order to have unfettered access from its only warm water Naval port in Crimea to the Mediterranean Sea.

With the Militant Muslims, (al Qadea, al Sharia, Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, ISIS, etc., etc., etc.), controlling the land transport of much of the World’s Oil, and Russia’s Navy controlling the Eastern Mediterranean shipment of Oil, Israel would have no choice but to become a neutral Nation - - - the “Switzerland” of the Middle East.

The Democrat control of the US Senate and Administration, has resulted in a strategy of Domestic Financial weakness, betrayal to America’s Allies, and exponentially emboldened Military planners in Russia and the Muslim Militant community.

Will Speaker “Blank Check” Boehner continue to financially support the Obama-Reid-Jarrett Regime Strategy of ceding control of the Eastern Mediteranian/Middle East to the Russians and Militant Muslims?


3 posted on 09/02/2014 8:29:35 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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>> Russia needs to have land and Naval control of the north shore of the Black Sea and western Turkey in order to have unfettered access from its only warm water Naval port in Crimea to the Mediterranean Sea. <<

True. But they already had Sevastopol. And the Crimean War (also known as World War Zero) gave Russia guaranteed access to Constantinople’s Bosphorus Straits.

>> Both the Russians and the Militant Muslims know that their rapid ground advances will end once the Impeachment Proceedings begin on Obama. <<

LOL! Forget the absurd notion that the Republicans in the Senate grow a spine (they can’t even bring charges against Eric Holder!!!!) your suggestion also requires a huge portion of Senate Democrats to join in with a 2/3rds vote. And then what? President Biden?

And hey, don’t forget: WE’RE the ones that created ISIS. Without Russia’s intervention in Syria, ISIS would already be in Damascus, Alleppo and probably Beirut.


4 posted on 09/02/2014 8:35:56 AM PDT by dangus
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What does that mean, that Obama pulled the Army and Marines out of the “Russian theatre of war”?


5 posted on 09/02/2014 8:36:14 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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If we must give Hitler all of the Ruhr if we wish to avoid war We Must give Putin the Crimea if we wish to avoid war.

Putin only wants to protect the German Speaking Minorities in the Sudetenland Russian speaking minorities in Donbass.

6 posted on 09/02/2014 8:36:34 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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but but but ... Putin is the anti-Christ and Hitler all rolled into one! This can’t be true because all the truth telling liberal MSM have told me how bad a person Putin is and how he hates everything Americans love like homosexuality, the religion of peace, feminists, etc. So this can’t be true, I’ll just close my eyes, plug my ears and say LALALALA until you’ve been punished by the righteous wrath of neo-cons trying to get us into a war with Russia! /S


7 posted on 09/02/2014 8:38:54 AM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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Sudetenland

Well written piece. There might also be pipeline routes south to the Black Sea involved.


8 posted on 09/02/2014 8:40:42 AM PDT by Rockpile
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For the record..... Putin already has Crimea and it is not really ours to give.

My theory has always been that the Putin gambit in Ukraine is a win win campaign. When he ceases the aggressive action the EU and Obama will crow victory and Putin will be smiling over lunch in Sevastopol


9 posted on 09/02/2014 8:41:26 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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Putey does not have the money to play no limit hold em. He’s already heavy into his egg money just trying to hold onto the Crimea. He also desperately wants to remain in the G8 and be a player on the Western stage. He’s not going to try to take Kiev.


10 posted on 09/02/2014 8:43:35 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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The current Russian Theater of War includes Ukraine, and the Black Sea south through Syria.

Sailors sail and troops have boots.

“- - - There is no US Military solution in Ukraine. - - - “ (B. Hussein Obama)

” - - - There will be no US boots on the ground in Ukraine. - - - “ (B. Hussein Obama)


11 posted on 09/02/2014 8:45:31 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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And that's because he knows it's not currently in his political best interest.

There, fixed it for you!

Regards,

12 posted on 09/02/2014 8:49:15 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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There certainly are pipelines in the Ukraine, but there are also pipelines through Minsk and the Baltics. And its much easier to expand throughput through Minsk or the Baltics than seize operational control over the largest nation entirely in Europe.


13 posted on 09/02/2014 8:49:29 AM PDT by dangus
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And you foresee that situation changing within his political career?


14 posted on 09/02/2014 8:50:47 AM PDT by dangus
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Russia is an imperialist nation and has been for the past 1,000 years. It spans nine time zones and has more land than any other country on earth. Their neighbors have a good reason to be afraid of the hungry Bear.

Poor little Russians, they talk as if everyone is picking on them! Really, all they want is one more buffer state to isolate them from those nasty Baltic states. /sarcasm


15 posted on 09/02/2014 8:52:24 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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Obama pulled troops out of Ukraine and withdrew from the Russian theatre of war?


16 posted on 09/02/2014 8:56:03 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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And you foresee that situation changing within his political career?

I do not foresee anything, since I am not a fortune-teller with a crystal ball.

I am merely saying that Putin's outrageous boast about being able to "take" Kyiv "if he wanted to" should in no way, shape, or form be considered a reliable reassurance about what might happen in the future.

Regards,

17 posted on 09/02/2014 8:58:59 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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Poor little Russians, they talk as if everyone is picking on them! Really, all they want is one more buffer state to isolate them from those nasty Baltic states. /sarcasm

All these tiny countries, picking on the Russians. I guess to be conservative on FR means that you must rush here to tell the rest of us that Putin means no harm.

18 posted on 09/02/2014 9:04:06 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Good post, however I disagree with you in some key areas.

p-> q (If I want to, I could invade Kiev in two weeks,) ~q (Putin is not invading Kiev in two weeks.) therefore, ~p (Putin doesn't want to.)

Correct. But since Putin has proven incapable of stopping the continuing escalation of the conflict, what's to say that in two weeks he doesn't change his mind and decide that occupation is his only option for "resolving" the crisis? How is he going to be able to ratchet down the situation, given that his actions to date have accomplished the two things least in Russia's interest: strengthening NATO and pushing Ukraine decisively into the arms of the West?

If he leaves the government of Ukraine intact, it will be aggressively anti-Russian and on his doorstep. That's not in Russia's interest -- and that specter is the whole reason Russia intervened in Ukrainian internal affairs to begin with.

Yes Putin has to be concerned with Russian domestic opinion, but just as important is the Russian sense that it is dangerous to have strong enemies on its borders. Putin is letting himself get sucked into Ukraine to avoid that possibility, but the more he does, the more real it gets.

19 posted on 09/02/2014 9:06:03 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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Putin was explicitly saying that he has no interest in invading Kiev. And that's because he knows it's not in his political best interest.

You assume Putin acts rationally. I'm not so sure he does, given everything else he does that is not in his best political interest.

20 posted on 09/02/2014 9:08:17 AM PDT by gdani (Every day, your Govt surveils you more than the day before)
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