[Lazamataz]

Sorry about the ping-list misuse, but I’m not producing new content for Free Republic. I am interested if any of you have an idea on how Obama can do the above, legally.

[skeeter]

Problem is there aren’t enough republican conservatives to stop this lawless act.

[molson209]

‘pardoning illegals’ does nothing , Obama doesn’t arrest them anyway ,even if they commit murder

[eyeamok]

So let me git this straight, you are daring to question the authority of our supreme ruler??

Has the ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY to do whatever he wants because NOBODY in any part of government will do a damned thing to stop him.

[IMR 4350]

He’s doing what community organizers do.

“If you don’t go along with what I want there will be race riots”

Completely illegal but if anyone tries to stop him there will be race riots in every city.

[apillar]

It's my understanding from what I've read and heard, that his legal reasoning will be “prosecutorial discretion”. Basically he issues an executive order that will direct the INS and Justice Department to no longer prosecute and attempt to deport large swaths of the illegal community, thereby giving them defacto legal status (or amnesty by omission). Now this “amnesty” won't actually give the illegals citizenship or even a permanent status, it is essentially just deferred deportation proceedings that will only last as long as the executive order does, any future president could void it with a stroke of the pen. But Obama is betting (probably correctly) that even if a Republican wins in 2016, they would fear the backlash and media generated sob stories if they rescinded it and ordered the illegals deported.

[HangnJudge]

Remember the Global pardon for
Vietnam War draft dodgers who moved to Canada?

http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/jan._21_1977_carter_pardons_vietnam-era_draft_dodgers/

This will be the justification for the Executive Pardon...

[delapaz]

It puts us further on the path toward having emperors, a path that is well-trod in history, see Roman Empire, French Revolution.

King->Republic->Emperor.

This is actually good in a perverse way as we reveal the underlying truth of the situation.

[Moonman62]

It would create a bigger flood of illegals waltzing across the border.

[Responsibility2nd]

Amnesty through Executive Order.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order

Thousands of E/O’s have been issued since our nation was founded. Acutally Barky hasn’t issued that many in comparison.

[TADSLOS]

The rule of law no longer exists in the same way we were taught to believe in. Obama's rule of law is whatever he says it is to advance social justice. What is congress going to do about it besides posture? What are individual states going to do about it, besides fight lengthy legal battles and lose federal funding for pushing back?

In the meantime, the floodgates come completely down. The damage is done. Obama gets his way. The Chamber of Commerce gets their way. Republicans are relieved. Democrats are ecstatic. Convict and remove him with Impeachment? Gotta secure the senate first. Even if that happens, impeachment and conviction would not come to closure until well into Obama's end of term. In the meantime more chaos, friction and the level of heat that starts civil wars is at hand. Islam stands at the ready to take full advantage. Hope n Change.

[pgyanke]

Laz,

Clinton gave us “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”. This measure was meant to overturn the long-standing ban on homosexuals serving in the military. When this law was repealed we should have gone back to what existed before... the ban. We did not. Somehow, we allowed the media narrative to take hold that repealing DADT would allow homosexuals to serve openly.

Obama will do the same here. The logic of the law does not matter. The media narrative does. If they say that his executive action has granted citizenship to all of the illegals, it will be so.

[goodnesswins]

Follow the $$$$

[ctdonath2]

Precedent:
“The decision of the Supreme Court has fell still born, and they find that they cannot coerce Georgia to yield to its mandate.” - Andrew Jackson
...popularly paraphrased as “John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!”

The Obama will make the declaration, couched in terms which well-payed lawyers will craft to complicate (though not refute) meaningful criticism of. He as Executive will act on that declaration, Congress will do nothing but shush a verbose minority therein, any (and unlikely) court challenge will take years to litigate, and no hindrance will be offered countering “I won; go ahead, stop me.” No impeachment will succeed, as the Left will stonewall, the Center will equivocate, and most of the Right will mumble “no point in trying”. No military intervention is even conceivable, as the leadership has been replaced with sycophants.

[Toespi]

Most of it is about legacy and being known as the one who put capitalism in it’s place. The narcissist-in-chief has a Robin Hood complex. Think about it, every speech he has made since his first campaign was about the evil rich and the down trodden poor. He wants to be their god but most of all this is the way to destroy America, by diluting her with people of other countries.

[Doc91678]

It surely affects the employment of the Afro-American employment that in some cases is as high as 50% in some areas of the U.S.

[Mike Darancette]

All Obama can do is like what he did with the dreamers, give them a temporary work permit and promise to defer deportation action. He has not the mechanism to offer a path to a green card let alone citizenship.

[Always A Marine]

There is no effective GOP opposition to Amnesty because the GOP is in favor of Amnesty. In the GOP’s shortsighted, suicidal view, we must replace millions of aborted 1990s babies who are not alive to work, pay taxes and vote for ever-expanding government. There is no longer a two party system — just two big government parties who make it look like we have a choice. This is why Conservatives are marginalized within the GOP, and actively scuttled when they become too successful.

[arthurus]

He won't be granting "amnesty" as the dictionary defines it but he will declare them all to be Legal immigrants or perhaps even citizens. Granting citizenship by EO is the most dangerous for the Republic immediately because it will be railed against and complained about by the Republicans who will then DO NOTHING except accept the "fait accompli." If the Court in a couple of years rules against it there will be no difference because the Court and the courts will have been rendered irrelevant by the act of EO citizenship and the non reactionby the political "opposition." Such an act, or rather the acceptance of the act wipes out the Constitution and the independence of the courts and the Congress at the same time that it overloads the system with new Socialist voters that will make permanent- at least permanent until foreign invasion and/or internal collapse- the One Party Democrat Socialist State. Once that happens we cannot return to, or by means of, the Constitution.

[arthurus]

He won't be granting "amnesty" as the dictionary defines it but he will declare them all to be Legal immigrants or perhaps even citizens. Granting citizenship by EO is the most dangerous for the Republic immediately because it will be railed against and complained about by the Republicans who will then DO NOTHING and accept the "fait accompli." If the Court in a couple of years rules against it there will be no difference because the Court and the courts will have been rendered irrelevant by the act of EO citizenship and the non reaction by the political "opposition." Such an act, or rather the acceptance of the act wipes out the Constitution and the independence of the courts and the Congress at the same time that it overloads the system with new Socialist voters that will make permanent- at least permanent until foreign invasion and/or internal collapse- the One Party Democrat Socialist State. Once that happens we cannot return to, or by means of, the Constitution.