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A Blot On The Jewish People
The Times Of Israel ^ | Aug. 19, 2014 | Dov Ivry

Posted on 08/19/2014 2:00:40 AM PDT by idov

There are lots of famous Jewish atheists from Sigmund Freud to Ayn Rand to Isaac Asimov to Woody Allen.

How do you think the Jewish community would have reacted if what follows had happened?

A Jewish couple, atheists, artists, puts on an exhibit in which they critique five major religions with artworks and commentary. At the end of the first day the gallery owner comes up to them and says, you are attacking Islam and that means you favor the Jews in "Palestine." This is "racism."

They try to explain that they are critiquing five major religions equally, did not single out Islam, did not mention the Palestinian issue, and therefore took no position on it.

Not good enough. The gallery owner continues his tirade and blames the Jews in "Palestine" for all the woes of the Arabs. The woman asks, "What is your reaction when Arabs blow up a bus full of Jewish children?" His response, "So what?"

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.timesofisrael.com ...


TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; atheism; atheists; australia; aynrand; dovivry; idovisdovivry; isaacasimov; jews; sigmundfreud; woodyallen
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To: idov; redleghunter; Godzilla; roamer_1; Greetings_Puny_Humans
I am not looking for an argument.

Indeed, you want the freedom to scornfully refer to "the numskulls translated the Torah," and to assert the writer of the book of Daniel was a con artist, and to relegate Christianity to a Greek myth and a “social disease,” and Christians as being “parasites,” “cancer,” and to proudly boast "I am what you call a heretic. They don’t burn us today, sorry." All on an officially pro-God forum, as in Judeo-Christian. But which arrogance befits your attitude.

The Indians were coming in to Egypt for centuries. A cult developed around Yeshu, a name for Krishna. His number two was Pet.Ra, same kind of name as Potiphe.Ra, related to the sun god Ra, and he was the gatekeeper of the Egyptian heaven. He got the same position in the new cult. The mother’s name was either Maya, mother of Buddha, or Meri, a common Egyptian name. When Greeks got hold of the myth they gave her a Latin name Maria, cognate of Marius. Petra in Greek is feminine so that was flipped that to Petros. The first the Jews heard about this myth was circa 120. Meir, the sage, read the book in Greek. He called it the Aven Gilyon, “an edition of inquity.” But they knew the god in the myth with the Greek name by his original Hindi name and it was never changed.

If you are not looking for an argument then do not post such propaganda, which has about as much credibility as Mormonic doctrine, and swallowed by you. Such copycat contrivances abound and have been refuted, but they are latched onto by many who seek some way to deny the Lord Jesus who will be their savior or judge.

Many sources can be provided, but here i will stay on one site that deals with such copycat assertions. See here on Were Bible stories and characters stolen from pagan myths? >

And here on Are Jesus and Krishna Parallels?

And Did Nazareth Exist? --

And here on Did Jesus exist ?

And The Book of Daniel Defended

For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. (2 Peter 1:16)

121 posted on 08/19/2014 6:31:27 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: redleghunter
So he is in a minority of one who argued the authenticity of the Dead Sea scrolls.

Not only, but he denied they were preChristian. Yet we are told (#21) "the only time there were known Jewish Christians in Israel was in the period between 120 and 135." Thus the DSS came after the destruction of the Temple! But the clandestine contender is gone so he escapes answering this.

122 posted on 08/19/2014 6:31:36 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

The boss sent him on his way

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3194433/posts?page=56#56


123 posted on 08/19/2014 6:34:14 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Jim Robinson
well, bye

He certainly was asking for it. But your patience enabled him to be challenged and his sophistry exposed, thank God.

124 posted on 08/19/2014 6:36:12 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: idov

Aahhh...


125 posted on 08/19/2014 6:41:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: idov
Angels do not give their names. He names two.

Maybe THEY don't give them; but...


There are five angels named in the Bible: Abaddon, Beelzebul, Gabriel, Michael, and Satan.

126 posted on 08/19/2014 6:44:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Did you know that epilepsy is the result of having sex too soon after having a pee?

Oh NO!!!

What is the definition of TOO soon???

127 posted on 08/19/2014 6:45:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Godzilla

Oh good! I was hoping he would. Good riddance.


128 posted on 08/19/2014 6:47:39 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among yvou except Jesus Christ)
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To: Godzilla; redleghunter; roamer_1; Greetings_Puny_Humans
or perhaps mr. idov, you are the author of the article and as such are an atheist and anti-semite author of many books as well

Which he at least admitted, though denying the atheist and anti-semite aspect. Good job on outing this covert operative (how did you know?), and for the many others who helped to challenge and refute his specious polemics, all to willingly swallowed by those who cry, "We will not have this man to reign over us." (Luke 19:14)

May all of me want and see Him rule over me always.

129 posted on 08/19/2014 6:48:39 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212; idov; redleghunter; Godzilla; Greetings_Puny_Humans
Sigh.

Alas, I have arrived again too late.

It seems our opponent has assumed room temperature.

He's pinin' for the fiords... He done been moon-beamed.... Rode the lightnin'...

130 posted on 08/19/2014 6:49:11 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Hurry up; Pa... we gotta use it; Too!



131 posted on 08/19/2014 6:53:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: redleghunter

“Certain” rabbis...


132 posted on 08/19/2014 6:54:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: idov
He simply translated a word correctly.

How do you know?

133 posted on 08/19/2014 6:55:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212

Thx for the links, btw... the ‘Defense of Daniel’ was particularly interesting


134 posted on 08/19/2014 7:18:14 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: daniel1212

Thanks for those links!


135 posted on 08/19/2014 7:32:42 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: daniel1212

He’s no longer with us.

(Rest in Peas)


136 posted on 08/19/2014 7:41:17 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: daniel1212

they have to hide behind the mask -


137 posted on 08/19/2014 7:58:47 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: idov; aMorePerfectUnion
I do not know Greek and I rely on my sources.

You can believe what you want. You have a bunch of numskulls not fluent in Greek guessing words and that’s what they came up with.

You admit that you do not know Greek, and then condemn those who are not fluent in Greek as *numbskulls*.

You just condemned yourself with your own words.

Ping.....

138 posted on 08/19/2014 9:03:10 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

IATZ, I see.

Oh well. Late to the party again.


139 posted on 08/19/2014 9:12:49 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: daniel1212; Godzilla

Just to be fair, while it seems almost certain he was an atheist, despite his denial, I don’t think he was an anti-Semite. Assuming he’s this Dov Ivry person, then he’s got those books of his on Amazon, and he’s written a fair amount there describing the content of those books. Based on what I saw in that content, he sounds to me like a totally secular Jew with a mission to discredit religion generally. He also thinks Obama is facilitating the rise of the Fourth Reich, of which he speaks disapprovingly. So I’m not seeing the anti-Semitism.


140 posted on 08/19/2014 10:47:14 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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