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Teens risk brain damage, low IQ from weekly pot smoking
Gant Daily ^ | 8-15-2014

Posted on 08/18/2014 6:28:55 AM PDT by Citizen Zed

Brain imaging studies of regular marijuana users have shown significant changes in their brain structure, particularly among adolescents, Lisdahl said. Abnormalities in the brain’s gray matter, which is associated with intelligence, have been found in 16- to 19-year-olds who increased their marijuana use in the past year, she said. These findings remained even after researchers controlled for major medical conditions, prenatal drug exposure, developmental delays and learning disabilities, she added.

“When considering legalization, policymakers need to address ways to prevent easy access to marijuana and provide additional treatment funding for adolescent and young adult users,” she adivsed.

Lisdahl also recommended that legislators consider regulating levels of tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, the major psychoactive chemical in marijuana, in order to reduce potential neurocognitive effects.

Current treatments for marijuana addiction among adolescents, such as brief school interventions and outpatient counseling, can be helpful, said Alan Budney, PhD, of Dartmouth College.

Start Fresh Program (www.startfreshprogram.com), an alcohol and opioid addiction therapy licensed to rehab clinics by BioCorRx Inc. (OTCQB: BICX), can be considered in treating marijuana addiction. The program has two components, medication through biodegradable Naltrexone implant and life coaching.

The implant, which is embedded under the patient’s skin through a medically-supervised outpatient procedure, successfully curbs the patient’s physical cravings to alcohol and opioids. The implant prevents addicts from experiencing a euphoric high during a relapse, discouraging them from taking alcohol or prescription opioids in the future.

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To: ConservingFreedom
It's legal to insult one's family, or drink till you pass out ... are those acts "acceptable"?

Let me have my weed because "HE DID IT TOO!"


41 posted on 08/18/2014 8:50:04 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Can you rebut anything I've posted, or will you just be dishonestly putting words like the above in my mouth?

I rebut everything you post which I think is worthy of rebuttal. Most of the time that is not the case. Most of your arguments are just touchy feely emotional garbage.

But the words you dishonestly put in my mouth are not garbage?

42 posted on 08/18/2014 8:50:51 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
What should we do about alkies whose bills we pay - ban booze?

And this is exactly what I mean. You are offering the "Because Alcohol is bad, we MUST legalize pot" argument

No, I'm asking a question you're squirming to evade.

43 posted on 08/18/2014 8:52:17 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
It's legal to insult one's family, or drink till you pass out ... are those acts "acceptable"?

Let me have my weed because "HE DID IT TOO!"

So you understand my point to be that because some unacceptable acts are legal, all unacceptable acts should be legal? Funny and sad.

Love the argument-by-big-font-and-graphic, by the way.

44 posted on 08/18/2014 8:54:49 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom
Can you rebut anything I've posted, or will you just be dishonestly putting words like the above in my mouth?

Don't know what you are talking about. That is exactly how you look and sound to me.

But the words you dishonestly put in my mouth are not garbage?

I didn't put them there. You spoke them. I just reduced them to their simple essence; the whining of a little brat who is upset cause alcoholics get away with it and weed smokers don't.

Not a D@mn thing you said explains why we should want more bad behavior than what we already have to put up with.

45 posted on 08/18/2014 8:55:08 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: ConservingFreedom
No, I'm asking a question you're squirming to evade.

There is no rational purpose for asking that question. It has NO BEARING on justifying Weed. It is demanding that we should put up with more worthless people getting stoned because we have worthless people getting drunk.

You have not voiced a single positive argument yet.

46 posted on 08/18/2014 8:58:19 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: ConservingFreedom
Love the argument-by-big-font-and-graphic, by the way.

It is more rational than anything you have put forth.

47 posted on 08/18/2014 8:59:39 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: ConservingFreedom

“better use of taxpayer dollars than imprisoning users of alcohol, tobacco, or pot”

We agree on this, however I think if you are caught selling/distributing lower the boom. The WOD needs to be fought at the border, banks, and distribution level, not the user level.

So you say that pot in itself injures nobody but the user? So a stoner driving after years of abuse and dumber than a box of rocks and zoned out due to dead brain cells is no danger driving a dump truck through the school zone your kids frequent?

“Stoners are in a minority. Do you propose criminalizing being low-info?”

Ha ha, that would be nice but know. Minority yes but the numbers grow daily of casual users (which to me is a stoner) so I am a bit on the extreme side with this. we have too many naturally stupid people in this world why grow that number?

The BATF is an agency that has outlived is usefulness and in a perfect world re-tasking would mean re-tasking but we are talking about a bloated government. No program/agency has ever been abandoned.

There is no simple answer to the stealing issue since majority of crime goes unreported and is sometimes criminal against criminal (in my book ok). I worked in LE and there is no simple answer to your question but legalizing a harmful substance in the name of “it only hurts the user” is just not true. That is Pandora’s Box.


48 posted on 08/18/2014 9:31:05 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: DiogenesLamp
When they start paying for their own bills, they will be right. Till then, it is our damned business.

Your problem is with socialism, not legalization.

49 posted on 08/18/2014 9:40:13 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: DiogenesLamp

I have reported this guy to management on several occasions as he is a retread newbie troll who got the zot before for his pro-dope rhetoric.

Evidently they don’t care.


50 posted on 08/18/2014 9:44:49 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: southern rock

Drug legalization is a Socialists wet dream. How better to control the stoned out masses AND profit from the taxes leal marijuana produces.


51 posted on 08/18/2014 9:47:37 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: DiogenesLamp
I just reduced them to their simple essence

No, you missed my point; please refrain from attributing to me any further simpleminded "reductions" of my words.

Not a D@mn thing you said explains why we should want more bad behavior than what we already have to put up with.

Wrong - we should cease our costly and counterproductive efforts against that "bad behavior" for the following reasons I've posted in this thread:

"Legalization for adults IS the most effective way to reduce access to marijuana by young people, through harnessing the power of the market: young people report that they can currently get illegal-for-all pot more easily than legal-for-adults beer or cigarettes."

"The less the cost, the less the stealing. How many boozers steal, rather than panhandle or collect cans, to feed their addiction?"

[In response to: "It is a false hope that the cartels will just lay down and give up their business because we legalize it. They will just move into domestic production and muscle in on the “legit” growers/suppliers."] "Like the mob remained a major player in the post-Prohibition alcohol trade? ROTFL!"

"Regulating for purity and age restrictions is an infinitely better use of taxpayer dollars than imprisoning users of alcohol, tobacco, or pot."

"If they're [law enforcement] re-tasked to fighting real crimes with actual victims, that's a win."

52 posted on 08/18/2014 9:48:46 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“.... taxes leal marijuana produces.”

leal? Where’d that come from? Should read.....

.... taxes legal marijuana produces.


53 posted on 08/18/2014 9:50:31 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: DiogenesLamp
When they start paying for their own bills, they will be right. Till then, it is our damned business.

What should we do about alkies whose bills we pay - ban booze?

There is no rational purpose for asking that question. It has NO BEARING on justifying Weed.

The purpose is to see if what you posted was a principle or merely a rationalization - if the former, you'll appply it consistently, including to the drug alcohol.

You have not voiced a single positive argument yet.

I've been too busy shooting down bad arguments for marijuana prohibition. Here's my positive argument: by legalizing marijuana, we'd take its profits out of criminal hands; reduce motives for crime; better equip ourselves to reasonably regulate it, including age restrictions; free up the tens of billions of taxpayer dollars being spend on enforcing marijuana criminalization; and become more respectful of the liberties of adults.

54 posted on 08/18/2014 10:00:39 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Wow, in those pictures, look at that pothead pushing around a person who tried to stop said pothead from stealing pot wrappers (swisher sweet cigars).

And they say potheads are peaceful.

Not.

The Religion of Pot (ROP) competes with Islam as the Religion of Peace (ROP)


55 posted on 08/18/2014 10:01:24 AM PDT by Vision Thing (obama wants his suicidal worshipers to become suicidal bombers.)
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To: southern rock
Your problem is with socialism, not legalization.

No it isn't. In no decent society will people allow the children of drug addicts to starve to death because their parents aren't taking care of them. It is UNREASONABLE for you to expect us to sit around and allow such a thing to happen. We wouldn't allow it to happen to an animal, let alone a human being.

By not taking care of their responsibilities, these drug addicts are forcing these unwelcome choices upon us, because for us to deny our help to their innocent victims would make us something less than human.

56 posted on 08/18/2014 10:05:20 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I have reported this guy to management on several occasions as he is a retread newbie troll who got the zot before for his pro-dope rhetoric.

Evidently they don’t care.

Libertarians are apparently considered part of the coalition. I, for one, have little use for them. They don't seem to realize that financial stability is only a byproduct of social stability.

57 posted on 08/18/2014 10:07:01 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Resolute Conservative
We agree on this, however I think if you are caught selling/distributing lower the boom. The WOD needs to be fought at the border, banks, and distribution level, not the user level.

Regulating for purity and age restrictions is also an infinitely better use of taxpayer dollars than imprisoning sellers of alcohol, tobacco, or pot. It makes no sense to make selling illegal but buying legal becasue they're merely two perspectives on the same act.

So you say that pot in itself injures nobody but the user? So a stoner driving after years of abuse and dumber than a box of rocks and zoned out due to dead brain cells is no danger driving

As soon as you introduce driving into the scenario it's no longer about "pot in itself."

we have too many naturally stupid people in this world why grow that number?

Should we shrink that number by recriminalizing the stupid-making drug alcohol?

58 posted on 08/18/2014 10:09:05 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom
No, you missed my point; please refrain from attributing to me any further simpleminded "reductions" of my words.

How did I miss the point of your bringing ALCOHOL into the discussion? Your argument is that we should put up with weed because we put up with alcohol, and I just pointed out that that is a childish argument.

Is there some OTHER reason why alcohol is relevant?

"Legalization for adults IS the most effective way to reduce access to marijuana by young people, through harnessing the power of the market: young people report that they can currently get illegal-for-all pot more easily than legal-for-adults beer or cigarettes."

So you are saying that making it legal will reduce usage? And you honestly expect anyone to take you seriously?

"The less the cost, the less the stealing. How many boozers steal, rather than panhandle or collect cans, to feed their addiction?"

I don't care what the bottom price is. The worthless dopers won't have a job anyway. They won't be able to afford it no matter the price.

59 posted on 08/18/2014 10:11:41 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: ConservingFreedom

As a tee-totaler and someone who does not suffer drunks well I am not one to ask :) My constitutional loving side says no, my side that hates drunks and see any addiction as a severe weakness says maybe. So far my constitutional side is winning.


60 posted on 08/18/2014 10:13:24 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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