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Tony Stewart Kills Driver In Tragic Collision, As NASCAR Reels And Police Investigate
www.forbes.com ^ | 8/10/2014 | Dan Diamond

Posted on 08/10/2014 5:04:09 AM PDT by CaptainK

NASCAR star Tony Stewart hit and killed another driver who was walking on the track in a sprint car race on Saturday night.

The other driver, Kevin Ward Jr., had collided with Stewart on the previous lap, leaving Ward’s car with a flat tire and pushed into the wall. As officials threw a caution, Ward left his car and began walking down the track — gesturing angrily toward Stewart — before being clipped and dragged 50 feet by Stewart’s car.

Several spectators told Bob Pockrass of The Sporting News that Stewart appeared to throttle his car before colliding with Ward.

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TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: kevinward; kevinwardjr; nascar; tonystewart
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

You might be correct. But if that were the case it would likely mean the vehicle was being accelerated at the time of impact. Ever hit a speed berm fast without foot on the accelerator? It just punishes the suspension. You might even lose control or even swerve due to the tires briefly losing contact with the road surface, but the engine will not or should not rev at a higher RPM.


381 posted on 08/10/2014 8:19:05 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

” it would likely mean the vehicle was being accelerated at the time of impact. “

I don’t think I agree, but am not 100% certain If an engine is under a load, it’s rpms are held back. Release that load, and the rpms instantly go up to a no-load condition. It would sound like acceleration, but really wouldn’t be
You can test this on any motor, gas or electric. Remove the load, and the motor’s rpms go right up.


382 posted on 08/10/2014 8:29:59 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Oh, they’ll test everything....

But they way, take your vehicle, get up to about 60MPH, take foot off the accelerator and hit a speed bump or any other obstacle in the road. Chances are great you will not hear your *engine* rev up or accelerate...But your suspension will hate you.


383 posted on 08/10/2014 8:38:01 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Then again, if the victim was very briefly tangled up in drive wheels who knows.

That being said, I would assume if a professional driver knew he just sent another vehicle out of control, end over end, into the wall or whatever, about 25 seconds later as he passed the collision scene, he would exercise great caution due to the potential of debris, bodies or stalled stopped vehicles.

384 posted on 08/10/2014 8:45:41 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I have to concur.


385 posted on 08/10/2014 8:48:33 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: dragnet2

“Chances are great you will not hear your *engine* rev up or accelerate...”

Yeah, but you mixing apples and door knobs! A Sprint car has no transmission. It’s either hooked up to the wheels, or it ain’t. That fat tire is everything to a Sprint car. It’s your traction, and it’s also your steering. It’s not like your granddad’s Oldsmobile! You unload any engine, and the revs will go up., it’s just not noticeable in a family car, with all sorts of computer controls. In a Sprint car, we’re talking about a powerful engine, hooked up directly to the rear axle. Engine rpms go up when the load is gone. They don’t have to work to pull the load. If your gas pedal got stuck, and you shifted into neutral, your engine will race, and probably blow up under a no load condition!


386 posted on 08/10/2014 8:50:59 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: liberalh8ter

Looked to me like Stewart swerved but not to hit him but to try to dodge him and the guy was just in the way. It’s hard to control something going that fast.

It was a very tragic, unfortunate accident. It WAS crazy to walk out on a track filled with fast-moving machines, though!


387 posted on 08/10/2014 8:58:09 PM PDT by luvie (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL Vets, too!l)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Like I said, who knows?

Trust me they will enhance and slow down the video to the point where they can determine exactly at what point the vehicle accelerated...If it were caused by the body of the victim being ground up and spit out, OK...

Again, I would assume if a professional driver knew he just sent another vehicle out of control, end over end, into the wall or whatever, about 25 seconds later as he passed the collision scene, he would exercise great caution due to the potential of debris, bodies or stalled/stopped vehicles.

No?

Again, based on the video, it appears the victim had a clear view to the suspect vehicle as the was walking towards it pointing at it. It would seem logical if this were the case, the vehicle could also have a forward view of the victim standing there defiantly pointing at him.

Just some thoughts.

388 posted on 08/10/2014 9:02:14 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: LUV W
It’s hard to control something going that fast.

FYI the car was going only about 45 mph at that point. It would be more accurate to say a sprint car going that slow on dirt is cumbersome to steer.

389 posted on 08/10/2014 9:12:51 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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Still, negligence, involuntary manslaughter. Motive is not always needed.


390 posted on 08/10/2014 9:18:00 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: dragnet2

Yeah. Nothing is conclusive at this time. Did Ward’s car flip end over end? Or just end up against the wall? I’m not a fan of the cars with wings. I prefer them without them. The wings let the cars corner much faster, but when things go askew, the wings make for more spectacular wrecks, as when they go out of line, the suckers flip really easily!


391 posted on 08/10/2014 9:23:10 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: BeadCounter

But a motive could have possibly existed...

A young nobody driver standing out there defiantly pointing at and calling out a famous big time professional driver?

Were words exchanged between teams prior to this? Over a radio? Face to face? Between drivers? Anything happen prior or during the race?

All these questions and more will be asked and investigated.

Lots of interviews/statements to gather.


392 posted on 08/10/2014 9:25:20 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Yup.


393 posted on 08/10/2014 9:27:13 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: steve86

“FYI the car was going only about 45 mph at that point. It would be more accurate to say a sprint car going that slow on dirt is cumbersome to steer. “

I was a driving at about 45 when a deer dashed out in front of me. I had no time to react! Thank goodness she cleared the road just as I went by!


394 posted on 08/10/2014 9:27:47 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: steve86

Good point. I am such a speed amateur. :)


395 posted on 08/10/2014 9:38:00 PM PDT by luvie (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL Vets, too!l)
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To: Ghost of SVR4
"I saw some new video tonight (the url won't hotlink here; sorry). It is pretty obvious the kid ran (literally)right into Stewart."

If you can't link what you saw, could you at least tell us where we can go to view it ourselves?

Thanks.

396 posted on 08/10/2014 10:01:43 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi

The video I saw is still up at “Dead Spin”: http://deadspin.com/reports-tony-stewart-ran-over-opposing-driver-during-1618893708


397 posted on 08/11/2014 2:09:01 AM PDT by Drago
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To: Cubs Fan
After watching and listening to the video

You aren't listening to "the video". The camera has a zoom lens: It doesn't have a zoom microphone. The sounds on the video are of cars on the front stretch, not the backstretch.

The video doesn't show Tony Stewart's car until almost the moment of impact. It isn't at all clear to me that Tony Stewart sped up before the impact.

There are probably other videos that will surface, but, right now, I don't think the video we've all seen shows Stewart doing anything particularly negligent. I'm withholding judgement pending further evidence.

398 posted on 08/11/2014 2:18:27 AM PDT by j. earl carter
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To: Drago; Ghost of SVR4

That video is everywhere.

The point is, Ghost of SVR4 says he(she) has seen a *new* video that shows a different angle.

That’s the one I’d like him to post. Or point to.

Trail of breadcrumbs.

Map with an “X.”

A strong hint.


399 posted on 08/11/2014 2:48:19 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: ClarenceThomasfan; re_nortex
I would like to agree, but I've seen enough "Obama's sons" comments to be doubtful.

But that's beside the point. Why do so many men of all races insist on getting themselves and each other killed with this stupid behavior, and what can we do to stop it?

400 posted on 08/11/2014 3:46:07 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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