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Windows 9 will be an operating system you can love (will be aimed at desktops, not tablets)
CoDRmputer World ^ | 8/7/2014 | Preston Gralla

Posted on 08/08/2014 10:17:45 AM PDT by Signalman

Windows 9 is going to strip out even more of Windows 8 than we thought: It will kill the Charms Bar. Considering that it will also add back the Start menu, and allow Metro apps to run as windows apps on the desktop, when it's done it may be an operating system you can love.

WinBeta reports that in Windows 9, currently code-named Threshold, the Charms Bar is going to be killed, as least on traditional PCs. That's good news. Although Charms works fine on tablets, on traditional PCs it's always been confusing and awkward to use. It's one more sign that Microsoft will be aiming Windows 9 more at desktops and laptops rather than at tablets.

Combine this with the ability to run Metro apps in their own windows on the desktop, have Metro apps include title bars and controls like traditional desktop apps, and boot directly into the desktop, and you have a version of Windows that looks and works more like Windows 7 than Windows 8.

The other news about Windows 9, according to Neowin, is that Windows 9 will have virtual desktops, which are available on Mac OS X and Ubuntu, as well as via some Windows third-party software. With virtual desktops, you create desktop different environments and can switch among them. So, for example, you might create one desktop for when you're working remotely with a work VPN, your company's enterprise apps, and so on; another for gaming; and others as well, and then switch instantly among them.

Virtual desktops aren't nearly as important as the other changes, which are all pointed at making Windows 9 an operating system designed for traditional PCs rather than tablets.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.computerworld.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: thistimeforsure; windows9
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To: adorno


That should read: 1 1/2 BILLION of PCs running with several versions of Windows...
61 posted on 08/08/2014 11:04:38 AM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: Red Badger
...Windows operating systems are like a grocery store chain. Just when you have finally gotten used to where everything in the store is located, they remodel and move everything to a new place...

As a network admin this burns my ass. You get used to doing things and finding things to where it's second nature, just like driving a car. Then MS moves shit around.

Imagine Ford switching the gas pedal to the left foot. Grrr....

62 posted on 08/08/2014 11:05:32 AM PDT by FReepaholic (Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go.)
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To: Signalman

Well, yesterday I picked up a new machine (new for me!), a Dell Optiplex GX520, and grabbed a Windows 7 disk with it.

So I installed my SATA WINXP drive on it and then re-partitioned and installed Windows 7 on it...
But Windows 7 doesn’t want to activate.


63 posted on 08/08/2014 11:08:21 AM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: Enlightened1

No. They’ve said plenty of stupid things about political issues, and I’ve said that it just makes it easier to torrent their products rather than have money going to a Dem’s slush fund.

I just don’t pretend like I didn’t hear them say it. Apple people would rather shoot their ears off and plead deafness.


64 posted on 08/08/2014 11:09:20 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: adorno
in the last couple of years, they've developed Windows Phone, which is actually, a much better OS

If you have time I'd love to hear you explain why you like it.

Genuine question. I'm still looking for a phone I don't hate.

65 posted on 08/08/2014 11:11:37 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: reg45

Really? I wonder your crashes had to do with a driver for your hardware? In 10 years I’ve only had a handful of freeze-ups and only one “kernel panic”. No viruses.

I’ve had a whole lot of “glitches” where things just aren’t perfect. The screensaver and the audio settings have had nagging gotchas on and off for years.

The Linux desktop experience isn’t perfect but it is fast, stable and secure.


66 posted on 08/08/2014 11:12:15 AM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: FReepaholic
Imagine Ford switching the gas pedal to the left foot. Grrr....

That analogy is pretty lame.

If your analogy makes sense to you, then imagine a similar change in the computing world, where people were/are expected to go from using keyboards, to touching screen buttons to simulate the keyboard experience. People got used to it, but, the keyboard is a much better mechanism for interacting with a computer.

Why not complain about something that really happened, and not something that has yet to happen, and which probably will never happen?
67 posted on 08/08/2014 11:13:46 AM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: FReepaholic

And where Admin stuff, and things admins needed to work on, were stashed in Se7en, W8 [wait] has moved or locked in some illogical location.


68 posted on 08/08/2014 11:16:12 AM PDT by Darksheare (I don't have a copy. one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: FReepaholic
Well, they have to do something to let you know it's better................


69 posted on 08/08/2014 11:22:15 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Darksheare

Windows 8, don’t use a Tablet OS to do a desktop’s job.


70 posted on 08/08/2014 11:29:49 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: adorno
I strongly disagree.....

People are buying Laptops, Tablets and Smart Phones these days. The Desktop has passed its peak. Besides Laptops, Tablets, Smart Phones affordability and port ability compared to a traditional desktop.... Apple, Google, Samsung have the online stores where people create millions of Apps, Music, Movies, TV show and books for their Laptops, Tablets and Smartphones. Microsoft reacted too slow to this. Yes they had an online store, but it was too restrictive, expensive and not user friendly. However, they have come a long way. Nevertheless, they are still behind the Apple, Google, Samsung and even new player... Amazon online stores.

Like you said Microsoft was late to the Smart phone market, and I believe they are falling behind fast. They may have a good product, but it maybe too late? Apple, Google and Samsung have saturated the market. So there customers are use to their operating system. Moreover, all of them are releasing new smart phones and Operating Systems ever year. Where is Microsoft? Finally, there is new player.... Amazon and their product is good and very affordable.

71 posted on 08/08/2014 11:30:19 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Organic Panic
Windows 8... The least intuitive OS since DOS.

Don't dis DOS!
72 posted on 08/08/2014 11:31:23 AM PDT by Arkancide (www.arkancide.com)
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To: Dallas59

Still running 7 on all mine and have no plans to change unless forced to do so..

Win 7 is nice. It was finally a decent 64bit windows OS.

I tired windows 8 preview and almost died, it was horrible.


73 posted on 08/08/2014 11:31:30 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: PastorBooks

I have a laptop with a bad hard disk. I’m thinking about replacing the hard disk and putting LM17 on it.


74 posted on 08/08/2014 11:34:21 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: QBFimi

You can load 2 different operating systems on one machine you know... right?


75 posted on 08/08/2014 11:34:25 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Enlightened1
They may have a good product, but it maybe too late? Apple, Google and Samsung have saturated the market.

Replace Apple, Google, and Samsung with Lotus, WordPerfect, and Ashton-Tate, and we've heard it all before.

76 posted on 08/08/2014 11:38:00 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Fightin Whitey
If you have time I'd love to hear you explain why you like it.

To begin with, I have to explain that my current smartphone is an LG G2, and I love it. It's a very nice piece of gear.

However, it's not very intuitive with Android, and with WP, I would expect it to be a better device.

WP is very intuitive, and it's intended to work seamlessly with all of your other computing devices, including tablets and laptops and desktops, and with the "cloud".

Live tiles is actually a great function, and it's nice to know what's happening with your applications at a glance.

Cortana is the new voice control for WP, and it's quite nice, and seems to be more in tune with the owner and his/her needs, than what one finds with Google's voice control or with Siri.

It's very easily customizable, and perhaps easier than Android and iOS.

The cameras on WP/Nokia, are by far the best in the smartphone industry, and even the cheapest Lumia smartphones have camera quality that's about equal to what one finds in high-end Android phones and in any iPhone version. Plus, the picture and camera support which comes with Lumias, are much better than can be found in regular Androis and iPHones.

There is more, but, I'm not a tech blogger and you can do your own look-up and research.

However, here is a link which supports most of my views:

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/7-reasons-why-now-is-the-time-to-buy-a-windows-phone-1246752#null
77 posted on 08/08/2014 11:38:22 AM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: GraceG

NEVER expect a “preview” version of an OS to work as the final release of the OS. Nobody can ever expect the same functionality and problem-free operation, as with the release to production.


78 posted on 08/08/2014 11:40:41 AM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: Signalman

For what it is worth, Vista after SP1 was a remarkably stable OS. I had it on 4 home devices and on my office desktop for years. No real issues at all.

Win 8 is Win 7 built to accommodate touch technology devices. It has worked very well on my touch tech devices and several of my colleagues use it without problems on their non-touch desktops and have since the beta.

ME, yes that OS was crap and 95 was pretty buggy for some things but 98 took care of most of those issues.


79 posted on 08/08/2014 11:46:28 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: adorno

[ NEVER expect a “preview” version of an OS to work as the final release of the OS. Nobody can ever expect the same functionality and problem-free operation, as with the release to production. ]

The underpinnings of the OS worked fine, the interface was just intolerable....


80 posted on 08/08/2014 11:46:39 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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