Posted on 07/05/2014 12:47:51 PM PDT by virgil283
"Soldiers who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan have complained that the 9mm round is not powerful enough to be effective in combat.
“The 9mm doesn’t score high with soldier feedback,” said Easlick, explaining that the Army, and the other services, want a round that will have better terminal effects — or cause more damage — when it hits enemy combatants.
One of the major goals of the MHS effort is to adopt a pistol chambered for a more potent round than the current 9mm, weapons officials said. ..."
(Excerpt) Read more at neveryetmelted.com ...
I guess NG stands for nasty gun but I meant to say ND for negligent discharge.
I agree, they are the best decockers.
Mark
As I recall, when Germany invaded Belgium, they captured the FN plants and stock, and began producing weapons for Nazi Germany, and you can find many surplus FN weapons, like the High Powers, with Nazi markings.
Mark
I’ve had a number of Sigs, and my favorite is a P220 in .38 Super, which loaded properly performs like a 125 grain .357 Magnum, but kicks only a touch more than a 9mm and is much quieter than the .357 SIG, which is a boomer.
I’m sorry, but I couldn’t help myself....
A 1911 in 10 mm (Colt Delta Elite comes to mind)
or
A glock 20
Utilizing BuffaloBore +P ammo (180gr, 1350FPS )
Of course we all know the military never does anything the easy way.
When my Father came through Liege not long after it was freed from the Germans, he said the plant was already taking orders from American soldiers for shotguns.
If the soldier paid, they would mail the gun to American once the guns were produced. Probably all kinds of laws now to prevent that.
I had a P220 in .45 but only kept it a short time. I bought it from a small dealer at a surprisingly low price. I then discovered the guns were hard to get and people were paying good prices for them.
I was in grad school at the time and seemed to always be short of funds. I sold it for maybe a two hundred dollar profit. I then bought a Colt model 1911 series 70 from a dealer at a gun show.
I thought he was unusually honest as he told me it was a Frankenstein gun, put together from a lot of parts. If he had not told me, I would have never guessed. I think I only paid $300 for it and as luck would have it, it was one of the best .45 autos I have ever had.
The FN plant did assemble many guns for GI’s out of existing parts, but the Nazis had looted most of the machinery when they pulled out. Interestingly FN got a contract to refurbish US military arms during the final part of the war, as well as producing jerry cans and some small tank parts.
Here are a couple threads about the “Boudinot” gun, a Browning A-5 made for and given to the officer that liberated the plant. There’s a photo of an FN honcho making the gun in the basement with him standing in the background. They were under V-1 attack at the time.
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=104926
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=109584&hilit=boudinot
The only truly impressive looking hand gun wound I have ever seen was a 44 mag hollow point to the knee. Most pistol wounds just aren’t that impressive looking. In fact, they can be easy to miss.
I thought I was a good shot until I bought a snub-nose .38. I’m still good with a longer barrel, but that snubbie takes a lot of practice. The 1911s I have shot were accurate at quite a distance. I’m thinking your Dad’s sidearm needed some work.
Actually the testing I’ve seen on those indicates they’re not terribly good as expanding ammunition goes. There are plenty of better JHP designs out there.
As to fmj only.
Fmj FP WS used in .32 Acp side arms to makrpe them s little less anemic. Might help with the 9para.
WS ment to be was so FMJ FP
One of these days, we need to withdraw from that. Things like the Geneva convention only bind the West, not our enemies.
Amen, Brother. Just like gun laws - they're only for the law-abiding.
“No matter what caliber they choose, they’re probably still stuck with an FMJ”
And that’s why it needs to be a big slug.
“John Moses Browning invented the Army’s more potent sidearm 103 years ago! It replaced the anemic Colt Single Action Army (SAA) that was chambered in .38 Colt”
The Colt SAA was a .45 cal, the Colt New Service was a .38.
“The Germans found the 9mm just fine in two wars.”
That they lost.
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