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The Reign Of Windows At Work 'Is Coming To An End' And Macs Are Rising Fast
Business Insider ^ | 07/05/2014 | Julie Bort

Posted on 07/05/2014 11:06:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

It's been clear for some time that the iPad has taken the enterprise by storm as employees tote it to work and companies buy fleets of them. But Apple's PC, the Mac, has never been as dominant in the workplace, until now, according to new research from long-time Microsoft rival, VMware.

VMware queried 376 IT professionals and found that they are increasingly being asked to buy and/or support Macs in the enterprise by employees who want Macs, not Windows machines.

"Microsoft Windows has dominated enterprise desktops for close to three decades but it appears its reign is coming to an end. As BYOPC ["Bring Your Own PC"] and BYOD [Bring Your Own Device] continue to transform the enterprise, Macs have become a popular and preferred option compared to Windows PCs," says Erik Frieberg, VP of Marketing, End-User Computing, VMware, in the report.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Society
KEYWORDS: apple; macs; microsoft; windows
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To: itsahoot

Strike a very sensitive nerve?

Let me clue you in on something. IT exists solely to support a business. When you have 16,000 users standardization is key. Yet because you are a fanboy, we should bow down to your needs, well, because???

IT has it’s share of problems, too. I used to get staff who wanted the latest and greatest whatever, never mind the business need, they wanted it. I tell everyone of these folks that want to put a business on the bleeding edge of technology to come back with a cost benefit analysis. Not one has.

If there was a MAC that did something that a PC didn’t and was a business need, we’d be all over it.


141 posted on 07/06/2014 8:13:56 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: PreciousLiberty

I’ve been in this business for over twenty years and the closest we had to a zero day exploit was Code Red and MS fixed it in a day I recall.

So, ever hear of heartbleed? No device attached to the Internet is safe, has a Mac (satisfied how I spelled it, wouldn’t want to get tears in your MAC keyboard) every had an exploit and before you smugly answer no, yes it has.


142 posted on 07/06/2014 8:17:50 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: PreciousLiberty

You aren’t stupid. You just don’t know.


143 posted on 07/06/2014 9:55:07 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: BwanaNdege; Lx
BTW, When I first started in I.S. with my former Fortune 500 employer, our division’s computer department was called “I.S.”, “Information Services”. Somewhere along the way they changed it to I.T. By then I was working in Engineering Services and could see that the focus of “I.T.” was no longer on Service to the company as a whole but rather on Information Technology, as in “This is OUR thing and making it easy for us is more important than providing a SERVICE to the rest of the company”.

One only needs browse this thread to see that in spades. How dare you ask the IT dept. to actually SUPPORT something they don't like? Don't you know how scary it is outside the entrenched comfort zone? They might actually need to know something beyond MS.

Better not question them. Who knows what retributive blackmail they have on you, should you actually need them to, you know, do their job and provide tech support.

144 posted on 07/06/2014 11:16:07 AM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: FreedomPoster

Yeah, it’s a pretty big deal when an outfit like Costco caves, since they’ve always pretty much been like Best Buy, i.e., they only offer the latest version of trash from Microsoft and no other alternative.


145 posted on 07/06/2014 11:18:24 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: PreciousLiberty

So you deny that Apple is run by a gay due? How gay is this? At least Bill Gates never slanted his advertising towards gays and Obama voters


146 posted on 07/06/2014 11:24:26 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Lx

So support the business. Are you incapable of networking Windows, Windows Server, OS X, OS X Server and Linux in the same environment? Your business users must love you.


147 posted on 07/06/2014 11:29:44 AM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: randita
We’re not techies. We just want to start the computer and have it work flawlessly without tweaking or tinkering. We’ve been satisfied. I don’t understand why some people are so hostile to that concept.

You answer your own question: IT charges.

Look at how much of the rabid opposition are people in IT that make their daily bread off of keeping MS patched and virus protected.

148 posted on 07/06/2014 11:30:35 AM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: TexasGator
Quoted from the posted article. These are the US sales numbers.

No they are not "sales numbers". . . those were Gartner's and IDC's pre-announcement guesstimates—published on April 9, 2014—which do not include any data from Apple's online store which claimed doom and gloom for Apple, while making rosy claims for the PC industry which pays their freight. These "guesstimates" have never been accurate and are based on observations of what their employees claim to see being sold at brick-and-mortar stores. Apple sells approximately 55% of all Macs in the USA.

Your post implied the data you were providing was the TOTAL number of Macs sold. . . not just one sector. . . and that that data was preliminary.. Nor did you provide your source.

Another error in Gartner's and IDC claims is that they both claim the Mac accounts for 10% of Apple's bottom line; actual figures from Apple show 12%.

Gartner projected an increase of 2.1% Mac sales resulting in a DROP a negative 1.7% YoY drop in market share growth, while IDC was more enthusiastic with a 0.6% decline in Mac sales and a 4.4% reduction in Mac market share growth in the US. They were BOTH way off the mark; Macs actually had about an 6% jump in US sales. . . and a jump in market share.

The ONLY Apple product seeing a YoY reduction in shipping was the iPad, which actually had a slight increase in sales but a drop in shipped numbers due to inventory adjustments.

Additionally, the article you cited reported the delta—the rate of market share change—as the Mac's market share. . . the first Calendar Quarter 2014 was 10.8% according to Gartner's error ridden guesstimate (even their market share figures were based on total PC sales with a plus or minus 3 million higher or lower guess using the maximum to get their percentages!), when it actually was a little over 12% using the accurate numbers.

Gartner and IDC pull their guesses out of thin air. The actual figures are published by Apple only days later in their Financial filings and report to Stockholders, on April 23, 2014. Apple makes THEIR numbers public.

149 posted on 07/06/2014 11:51:16 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: coon2000

They do. Sure, have four different manufacturers for servers, that would be wonderful to support. Four different patch deployments, four different build CDs, and four different ways for a server to blow up. Pass. I’ll stick to one manufacturer and two O/S (Linux) unless there’s a compelling business reason, no sale. I could care less how my users think of me. All I care about is uptime.
You have yet to present a business case for using Apples’ products, just emotion.


150 posted on 07/06/2014 11:53:20 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: LexBaird
One only needs browse this thread to see that in spades. How dare you ask the IT dept. to actually SUPPORT something they don't like? Don't you know how scary it is outside the entrenched comfort zone? They might actually need to know something beyond MS.

Better not question them. Who knows what retributive blackmail they have on you, should you actually need them to, you know, do their job and provide tech support.

This level of cluelessness is awesome. So some user wants to use a Mac and we're supposed to bend over for him, get a clue. Since you obviously don't have a clue, IT does more than support servers and users, there's the network itself, there's ensuring that intrusion detection is working, there's disaster recovery tests and on and on. Supporting a Mac would be child's play but why when THERE IS NO BUSINESS CASE, get that through your fanboy head.

151 posted on 07/06/2014 11:59:34 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: LexBaird
Better not question them. Who knows what retributive blackmail they have on you, should you actually need them to, you know, do their job and provide tech support.

We read the firewall logs, I would keep that in mind if I was you.

152 posted on 07/06/2014 12:00:36 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: usconservative; dennisw; TXnMA
Why post to me when I didn't make the comment? Talk about FUD....

My reply is not FUD. . . it provided the correct information. I posted to you because the comment was originally posted to you, supposedly in an attempt to "inform you," but DennisW frequently deliberately and snidely misinforms with his FUD in this manner. I included you as a courtesy.

153 posted on 07/06/2014 12:03:18 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

My mind is closed? I’ve put several companies on the Internet, had thousands of users and one data center had over 400 servers and another had a mainframe and 200 servers to support along with a backup data center that mirrored the one in Sacramento. I’ve been doing this a long time and to get a lecture from someone who probably has one Mac is a joke. Let me see you walk in my shoes, I can damn well walk in yours.

I’d like some clarification on the Fortune 500 who have Macs. I’m don’t think they would up and change their data centers to run Macs; I doubt they did a forklift upgrade and what about apps and especially custom apps? So what is it, they have one Mac in the art department?


154 posted on 07/06/2014 12:10:56 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: TXnMA

Yeah, I’ll get right on that, you posted about the hate, you own it; I’m not doing your search, or is it that there isn’t any?


155 posted on 07/06/2014 12:14:18 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: Lx
You have yet to present a business case for using Apples’ products, just emotion.

You have me confused with someone else. Your anger over an operating system is funny. I never said you should use one operating system, OS X, Windows or Linux, over the other.

I work in a very diverse IT ecosystem. We have complex networks in a multi-tenant environment. My question was can you network all of these OS's and administer them, which apparently you cannot.
156 posted on 07/06/2014 12:38:18 PM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: LexBaird

Great point!


157 posted on 07/06/2014 12:50:41 PM PDT by randita
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To: Swordmaker
My reply is not FUD. . . it provided the correct information. I posted to you because the comment was originally posted to you, supposedly in an attempt to "inform you," but DennisW frequently deliberately and snidely misinforms with his FUD in this manner. I included you as a courtesy.

Your reply including me was uncalled for IMO. I'm smart enough to determine what's b.s. on here and what isn't without others (including yours) help.

Let it go already, sheesh. You don't have to be Apple's information police here on FR. In the future, I'd appreciate the courtesy of your leaving me out of your tit-for-tat exchanges here on FR. I don't need you to "inform" me. I'm more than capable of that myself TYVM.

158 posted on 07/06/2014 1:44:00 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: FXRP
VMWare wishful thinking. Their software simply allows people to run the PC version of Microsoft Office Pro on their Macs.

Where did I comment on VMWare on this thread? (Looking back ... not seeing anything ...) VMWare is nothing more than a a hypervisor to let any Windows/Linux run on Intel. The hypervisor space that VMWare lives in is starting to be taken over by Microsoft and RedHat for example. We're a huge VMWare shop, but even we're moving our Windows Server platform over to Microsoft's hypervisor to save on licensing costs of VMWare. The bank I work for (in the top 10) is also using VMWare and Puppet to build and orchestrate our hybrid cloud environment. We've recently completed a "bake off" of Cloud vendors and went with VCE. Can't wait for that hardware to get in, this is gonna be a whole lotta fun!

Apple is not replacing Windows. The new tablets and smart phones are being used in addition to Windows machines.

Agree. I have an iPad & iPad mini that I use for some features @ work. Web based apps using Dynamic HTML/5 work well on it, as does the email client I use to synchronize my work email and calendar on my iPad. I'm typically running from meeting to meeting, and often have one meeting schedule on top of another so I need my email mobile with me to reconcile which meeting I really need to be in. I also have my iPad mini in a keyboard case so I can take notes during meetings and send them to myself via email or on a SharePoint site that I have at work. I also use my iPad to view Presentations, PDF's and display then on large projectors/widi devices during meetings. It's far faster to do these types of tasks on my iPad than it is carrying around a laptop. I'm also the person in our organization (global Bank) who started the iPad and then Droid "craze" at our Bank, giving users the option to access apps and get their email on their own personal devices. Gotta love innovation.

I have a Glock, but that doesn’t mean I threw away my Colt 1911 (Series 70). The same is true for computers. We just have several instead of one. Each tool has it’s own strengths and weaknesses.

Love your analogy! Speaks to two of the things near and dear to my heart --- weapons and computers!

You have a great day, and thanks for your post.

159 posted on 07/06/2014 1:58:29 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: coon2000
1) I presented a case why I should or shouldn't support such devices.

I work in a very diverse IT ecosystem. We have complex networks in a multi-tenant environment. My question was can you network all of these OS's and administer them, which apparently you cannot.

2) Ooh burn. Son, I've been in computers before you even knew of the Internet, I've supported DOS, Netware, Windows NT, Linux, Sun Sparc, HP UX, T1, Frame Relay, MPLS, ISDN, VOIP multiple routing protocols over multiple sites so I'm pretty sure I can support whatever comes down the pike.

...work in a very diverse IT ecosystem. We have complex networks in a multi-tenant environment.

What does that word salad even mean, is it a way of puffing up your credentials? You know, a Mac hooked up to Netgear switch doesn't sound as good does it?

160 posted on 07/06/2014 2:48:54 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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