Posted on 03/31/2014 3:49:33 PM PDT by TheProducer
Church is too much?
Why are you there if you dislike the church goers?
Ricochet of a pepper spray projectile hit her in the eye. She died of her injuries but the cop did not shoot a bean bag in her face from 4-5 feet.
Hope the SOB in this video is prosecuted.
Salaam wa leikum! Well, we lived in the sleepy little town of Ras Tanura, run by ARAMCO, for F-I-V-E long years. We had the BEST lives over there of all the Americans.
I HAVE heard all the horror stories! My husband (a mechanical engineer who could do ANYTHING) and I lived in a BRAND NEW three and a half bedroom home, wall-to-wall carpet, three bathrooms, all electric kitchen, TWO humungous A.C. units (in case one broke down, we had the back up), one-car garage with a special room (zillions of electricity stuff in there) that ALL Aramcons used for making booze, phone line home to the U.S., three cars (beat-up leftovers from previous ARAMCONS), small back yard which I filled with cactus (indestructible!!), a front lawn and a Philippino houseboy.
On camp we had a movie theater, commissary, pork store, bank (Saudis always ran anything to do with money), club house [with a pool, restaurant, school (K-9)], three ministers (one priest, one vicar for the six Anglicans and one minister for ALL the Protestants), their respective homes, recreation department, beach house, life guard, hundreds of new homes, just like ours, a hundred or so older homes which were cheaper but had cockroaches, golf course (ALL SAND) and ITS clubhouse and, of course, the refinery.
The refinery belched orange and white (sulfuric acid) flames. The latter made us ALL sick as dogs when the wind blew the wrong way. The Saudi police "guarded" the front gate. I once saw one of them picking his feet with his bayonet. Lovely.
For us it was the adventure of a life time. We traveled all over the place...Egypt twice, Syria, Jordan, Bahrain, Qatar, China, India, Europe, even Kenya! I learned to read and write SOME Arabic, and al hamdu lillah and shukran were the phrases that carried us throughout the ENTIRE middle east!
My wonderful husband (now passed on) made an INDECENTLY large salary and I made exactly FOUR times my back-in-the-states salary. After TWO years there we had enough to BUY A HOUSE in San Francisco. We came home after five years. That was enough! Also, you DO remember that ARAMCO and the U.S. government had an agreement: WE ARAMCONS PAID NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES ON OUR SAUDI EARNINGS. We were from California and after being out of the state for longer than a year, we were no longer California state residents and paid NO STATE INCOME TAX!
We had the house fully PAID for after nine total years. What a deal!
SO!!! Fi iman illah and Ma salaama.
THANKS for serving, General.
Just read the story.
Terrible...
You completely misunderstood. SOMETIMES the ladies at church are a bit too much with their OCCASIONAL OVER-LOUD prayers, their chatting with each other but taking MUCH umbrage when others do it and their walking backwards away from the altar, which they ONLY do when someone is watching.
EVERYONE is annoying occasionally, even the nice Church ladies. Lol. I am ONE of them and TRY not to be over-loud, chat with ANYONE and NEVER, EVER, EVER walk backwards away from the altar. The priests don't do it, why should I or the Church ladies...it's all for show.
The big money is no more for the non oil people. They are hiring Pakistanis now because even the Filipinos are too expensive.
The maids and outside help is mostly Malaysians now.
South Africans and Australians have replaced Americans in most places.
Saudis are driving taxis now which I’m sure didn’t happen when you were there.
“WHO is blaming the victim? NOT ME. Please no OLD chiches.”
You say this, and then you say this:
“Well, NOT every encounter with cops was a good one but I never did turn it into a “victim” ordeal.”
I’m sorry, but there are victims of police abuse who did nothing to ‘turn it into a “victim” ordeal’, and the way you talk it really seems like you think any negative encounter with the police must be the citizen’s fault.
I didn't see a riot...
To be honest, I don't think most the cops there have ever seen a real riot.
But they keep acting like this and they'll eventually get to see one.
Well, I guess I do “mis understand”.
I am RC, the altar is not a place to screw around.
Must be a secular deal with Christians that I am simply unaware of no offense intended.
We go to Mass to worship, all of the socializing is done when Mass is over.
Then..you can expect anything! But most folks just scoot to get out of the Parking Lot!
And those jackasses don’t bother to retaliate?
To defend the innocent?
The innocent Americans?
No worries.
We shall be doing so soon.
VERY soon.....
like the thugs, the riot cops go for the low hanging fruit, or the one that won’t hurt him personally. Take out the female doing nothing...whew, I can go home safe tonight..
It should be no surprise that officers view the people they initiate contact with with suspicion as well. They have to. Untill the person does demonstrates that they are not a threat to them. The trick is not painting the entire public with one brush...like some freepers do with cops. I have been a cop for 22 years. I am proud of my service. That being said, cops my age are noticing that police work is heading in a direction we are not comfortable with. The only thing we can do is train new officers in “old school” values. We are seeing young people get into police work that have different values than we do. Different ideas of what’s police should or should not be able to do. (no family values ...public schools?) I have three years to go till I can get out...i pray I make it.
“It should be no surprise that officers view the people they initiate contact with with suspicion as well. They have to. Untill the person does demonstrates that they are not a threat to them. The trick is not painting the entire public with one brush...like some freepers do with cops”....It’s exactly that attitude I have been concerned about. You are a trained ‘public servant’, armed, under color of authority. You just admitted that you view the entire public as a threat until proven otherwise. You have forgotten who serves whom. Caution is one thing, suspicion is something else entirely. A citizen has the power of himself for the most part, you on the other hand have the power of an entire government apparatus behind you....who should be displaying caution and who should be suspicious???
There’s nothing wrong with slamming our cops for doing bad things without having been in a third world country. The behavior of cops in other countries and exposure to same is 100% besides the point. You don’t have to have ever stepped foot in another country to see that TPD decided there was going to be a riot Saturday night and when the citizens didn’t provide them with one they made one happen, and you don’t have to have stepped foot in another country to know that is a very bad thing.
Frankly if US cops want people to be less anti-cop they should be less assholes. With no knock raid on the wrong address, creating a riot when they couldn’t get one, shooting dogs for no good reason and the host of other things they do all by themselves to bring shame upon the badge they’ve brought this on themselves.
You’re right on the mark this time!
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I did not say I viewed all people with suspicion...i said those that I INITIATE contact with...which means that I have to pull them over, or stop them for something. At that point, I do a threat assessment of that person. Once I decide that they are not intending me harm, I have no issues with them. I do my business and move on. And maybe you are right...suspicion is probably the wrong word. Caution is probably more accurate. It is very difficult to forget who pays our salary, as we are reminded daily by select members of the public. (humor there) bottom line..there are more good willed cops than bad. Those bad cops are used as demonstrations of how the govt is out of control, this because cops are the most visible and approachable symbols of the govt. They make the job that much harder for those of us who are professionals in the field. My 2 cents
All I “know” is that I wasn’t there and only saw what was fed to me.
They are?
What about your corrupt leaders in Congress, the White House, the Senate and those down to the local levels, who are way too numerous to mention?
The fish rots from the head down.
I have seen enough postings here about the actions of irresponsible police officials...and they usually garner the most replies. I know a sovereign alert when I see one.
Your post needs less caps lock and more logic.
Our cops are bad and getting worse daily. I say that as a military veteran, son of a retired Sheriff’s Deputy, and as someone who’s spent time abroad.
The stats speak for themselves, but I’m sure you’d rather just clamp down on that caps lock key and help make that thin blue line just a bit more of a thick blue wall.
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