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To: butterdezillion
Why weren’t they too scared to do it? Well... why do actors and actresses do underwater scenes where they’re trapped and barely get out, etc? Why are they not afraid of being underwater in those scenes? How many actors or actresses die in underwater shoots?

How many of those underwater scenes are filmed by first crashing an airplane to get the actors into the water?

What I can tell you is that for every passenger there, there was at least one “extra” who was closeby in the Puentes video. And the role of the “extras” - based on where and how they appear - seems to be making sure that the passenger stays afloat and safe.

It's been explained to you on prior threads that, even with a crew of frogmen in the water, it would be impossible to put the plane down exactly where they were. If you responded to those posts, I don't recall seeing it.

69 posted on 04/02/2014 3:37:10 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

There are stunt pilots. Actually, Josh Lang is a stunt pilot...

I did respond to those questions that were brought up but I can understand how you missed it, because for a while the threads about the issue were being sabotaged so that even people who wanted to hear the content couldn’t stomach the garbage.

Extra people could have been in the cargo area of the plane, exiting while Puentes had his hand over the camera lens, with that time later edited out - which would also explain why Hollstein said they waited in the plane for the plane to start to sink, and why the water was level with the plane floor by the time any of the videotaped people exited the plane.

In addition, Josh Lang’s photo of the plane close-up shows multiple blatant signs of photoshopping, meaning that his images of waters totally desolate were most likely not taken that day but were passed off as if they were. You don’t bother photoshopping unless you have a reason. Somebody’s hiding something about what was in the water that day.

Still trying to pin down details because there are blatant contradictions between the official reports from everybody who was there. Practically every detail that’s ever been claimed about this crash and rescue is contradicted by at least one other official source/report and often several sources. But it’s looking like Lang’s story is total BS for reasons I can’t yet state because I don’t want to jeopardize further information requests.

It’s looking like there was at least one aircraft that was right there when the crash happened and reported it immediately to the Honolulu Control Facility, which passed on the report to the USCG before Lang claims to have known anything about the crash. Depending on what aircraft that was, it would have been VERY easy for that aircraft to drop people and equipment into the water as soon as the Cessna ditched.


72 posted on 04/02/2014 6:07:48 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
it would be impossible to put the plane down exactly where they were

"Impossible"? As a student pilot in high school, I won a medal in the school's annual spot landing contest, where the goal is to land the plane as close to a designated spot as possible with the power cut, simulating your losing your engine.

We've been at war for a very long time and there are all sorts of very well trained ex-military with very specialized skills and all sorts of specialized equipment.

It's very hard to say with certainty what is impossible within the circumstances you cite.

78 posted on 04/03/2014 6:08:13 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
it would be impossible to put the plane down exactly where they were

If the plane was sabotaged, "they" could bring the plane down to them, wherever "they" were along its known flight path.

The pilot wouldn't have to be involved in that sort of conspiracy at all, but just simply fly the suddenly crippled airplane to a slow, safe water landing, (an airplane designed to fly and land slowly safely, btw), which he did.

All were relatively unscathed in the ditching and didn't one swim to shore?

It's funny. People believe in "man caused global climate change" but won't accept the possibility this could have been a very timely hit to remove a potentially compromising individual whose knowledge could threaten the POTUS and his/their plans for US?

Yeah, sure, okay, that sounds right, makes sense to me.

80 posted on 04/03/2014 7:11:02 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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