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Evidence the Hawaii Medical Examiner turned a blind eye to the death of Loretta Fuddy
birtherreport ^ | March 31, 2014 | Linda Jordan

Posted on 03/31/2014 10:55:40 AM PDT by ethical

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To: trisham

Stop what? Presenting information for people to inspect and discuss?


281 posted on 04/04/2014 10:18:04 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: Jim Robinson

How do you peer review frames of a video with the question “What do you see?”


282 posted on 04/04/2014 10:19:26 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: butterdezillion

Peer review with your fellow researchers (off line).


283 posted on 04/04/2014 10:20:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: butterdezillion

Never mind. I’m sorry that I bothered.


284 posted on 04/04/2014 10:21:17 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I already did that before I posted “What Do You See?” on youtube or posted any threads here. The video I put on youtube was my third “take”, after making changes suggested by my peers.

Are you saying there is something wrong with the video I put on youtube, or any of the images I have posted for people to analyze?


285 posted on 04/04/2014 10:25:53 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: butterdezillion

Your prior donations have already been used to pay expenses, Thanks. If you wish me to stop your current monthly, please let me know and I will cheerfully do so.

By the way, if you wish to own your own forum it’s very easy to set one up. They even have free (or low cost) forum services now days. You don’t have to program your own or even own your own servers anymore like you did when I created this one. Just sign up for google cloud and go for it. Forum ownership is open to anyone.


286 posted on 04/04/2014 10:30:10 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: butterdezillion

butterdezillion you can’t always get what you want.Your not only disrespectful but insulting.


287 posted on 04/04/2014 10:33:13 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: butterdezillion

Well, I don’t know. But I don’t think it was ready for prime time. Not for a news article, not for a vanity post, not even for a blog post. Suggest you review your peers.


288 posted on 04/04/2014 10:34:32 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: butterdezillion
Unfortunately, I have no way of knowing whether you have great respect for anything I have done. I have no way of knowing anything about you. The person who warned ABC to pixelate the videos was somebody on my ping list - a mole who wanted to sabotage my research but who posed as a friend. Why do my enemies act as moles? Because that’s part of the subversion process. We can read all about Glenn Greenwald’s revelations and it seems far-fetched but it’s happening right here. People have been posing as my friends .... It’s a way to re-shape the narrative. And it works because nobody in an anonymous community has any idea who anybody else is. Real people might think the video showed a shoe, or moles pretending to be my friend might be pretending to think the video showed a shoe, and neither I nor anybody else could tell the two people apart. By posing as somebody they’re not, the Alinsky operatives are able to re-shape the perception of what is real, and what real people (non-operatives) see and think.

Butter, I have said for years that I support you. I expect my words on FR to be taken at face value. I've been here for a very very long time and I am consistent in my opinions (a consistent as a human being - i do evolve). I am sorry that you are in this situation: real people ARE out to get you, or stop you, so I think it is natural that you fear us all and don't know whom to trust. However, it does no good to double down when nearly everyone here on your side tries to gently remind you that there is a fine line between good open minded research and insisting against evidence to the contrary. A lot of us are proud of you and glad you have discovered the things you have, but not every knothole is the barrel of a gun. I'd be so happy to know that you can admit that some threads one chases don't pan out - and chase another thread. Keep chasing. Just please be careful. The thread with the magic frogmen appears to my professional eye that you may have stepped over the line of logic and restraint. You're smart, you're good, and you aren't crazy. But clinging to very very weak arguments LOOKS like rationality is missing. If your response to me does not agree that some threads don't pan out, and that you understand how it looks to us when the evidence is powerfully weak and doesn't fit Occam's razor, then I do fear you need to take a break, focus on family, etc. Some jobs do lead to mental strain, and you need to be in top form to be a logical sleuth. No, I am not a mole trying to stop you. Just clear your head until you can handle the fact that not every hypothesis pans out. That is science.

289 posted on 04/04/2014 10:36:37 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Tillie

Butter - I agree with your post. I do not think you are crazy or any of these other names. The idea that the yellow thing is a shoe is the most ridiculous theory yet. Has anyone ever tried floating in a lifejacket while fully clothed? I’m not a 60-year-old woman, but I sincerely doubt she has/had the strength in her quadriceps and hip flexors to get her shoe up out of the water. If she were kicking violently enough to thrash above the surface, why would she suddenly “let go.” Why didn’t Yamamoto or one of the other passengers attempt rescue breathing? Was no one on the flight aware of basic CPR techniques?


But I’ve been in the buoyant ocean, with some adipose tissue and rubber shoes, and your feet and legs naturally rise to the surface.


290 posted on 04/04/2014 10:39:28 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: fatima

To the Freepmailer.I’ll consider answering you on this forum only.Will delete your freepmail.


291 posted on 04/04/2014 10:51:24 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: fatima; butterdezillion; Fred Nerks; LucyT

WHO is funding the FORUm, hello???


292 posted on 04/04/2014 10:56:15 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: danamco

This forum belongs to Jim.He is the owner.


293 posted on 04/04/2014 10:59:11 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Jim Robinson

You’ve got a great thing going here, Jim. I could never match what you’ve done here. I just don’t want Free Republic to lose what it is.

I came to Free Republic because there were great researchers here, who cut through the PC garbage and dealt with real evidence. If there was a hoax they figured it out - like the Dan Rather Memo-gate issue which brought FR to the national limelight. People with amazing skills, experience, knowledge, and access to information were working together to make sense out of the evidence, even when it seemed crazy to the “cool” people like Dan Rather. I loved that spirit, appreciated the stimulation of the cross-examination that happened here, and believed in the necessity for analysis outside the propaganda being given to us in the lamestream media.

At the same time, the capabilities that John has developed here are amazing. This truly is a fantastic place, because both pieces of the puzzle were excellent - the contributors and the builders.

At no time has that ever been needed more. I’ve mentioned Benghazi, Fast and Furious, and Extortion 17 - all of which resulted in our military and/or LE heroes being betrayed, to death, by this regime. Yet the “mainstream” media would think either you or I to be nuts if we suggested as much. Sharyl Atkisson has struck out on her own because she was silenced by the top powers at CBS.

Glenn Beck, who initially poo-poohed the “birthers” because he had been threatened, tried to appease the controllers at Fox, but when they wouldn’t do anything to protect his staff who were receiving daily threats to their lives in an attempt to silence Beck on the communist/Islamist connections in Obama’s regime, realized that if you let the demoralized public perception determine what is OK to talk about and what isn’t, you’re eventually going to end up talking about piddles. I just listened to Yuri Bezmenov again, talking about how that is exactly what their demoralization plan aimed for.

I understand that you want Free Republic to keep from being labeled as “fringe”. But labeled by who? The same people who labeled Beck “fringe” when he talked about Van Jones, and labeled Atkisson “fringe” when she talked about Benghazi? Those people will always be out there; it’s part of the demoralization plan as outlined by Bezmenov, which I linked to earlier in the thread. They totally rest on the public buying into that revised perception of what is crazy and what isn’t.

That’s why it’s so critical for fogbow and other anti-freedom entities to have the Free Republic “sock puppets” that they boast about. Free Republic is the tip of the spear. If they can make it appear that Free Republic thinks a topic is crazy then they can shape the public perception in a major, major way.

If Free Republic lets these psy-ops agents do that to us, we become a dull spear and we sign patriotic Americans over to thinking that people who see a naked emperor are alone, the only ones noticing what’s happening in this country. Or that they’re crazy. Or too “conspiratorial”.

It’s that demoralization of the majority of Americans that has allowed the wolf to come in and kill a LOT of chickens in full view of everyone, but with nobody willing or able to demand that it stop. I mentioned 3 “scandals”. There’s also NSA-gate, IRS-gate, etc. We all know this regime is a criminal enterprise, but we’re afraid of losing our “credibility” if we come right out and say it.

Like the people who wouldn’t call the emperor naked because only “knaves” couldn’t see his nice, new magic clothes. As long as the sellers of the “magic clothes” can get us to believe we’re exposed as “knaves” if we say the emperor is naked, they will succeed.

And in this case, a naked emperor means a dead America. None of us here want that, except the “sock puppets”, and they - and many of us here - know who they are and are realizing who more and more of them are all the time.


294 posted on 04/04/2014 11:02:21 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: fatima

What have I said that is disrespectful or insulting?


295 posted on 04/04/2014 11:04:16 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: butterdezillion
Extra people could have been in the cargo area of the plane, exiting while Puentes had his hand over the camera lens, with that time later edited out - which would also explain why Hollstein said they waited in the plane for the plane to start to sink, and why the water was level with the plane floor by the time any of the videotaped people exited the plane.

You're saying that the "cargo area" of this plane could hold nine people? And that the plane could fly with the weight of nine additional people?

296 posted on 04/04/2014 11:05:20 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: butterdezillion

There may be many of us with the same opinion!

After I unfairly was sent to the “silent” corner/room = suspended/probation after somebody “reported” me, I changed my giving habits, as interpreted that I had no say on this “Forum” or censored!!

I had many mail me privately it was unfair!!!


297 posted on 04/04/2014 11:07:46 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: fatima

OWNER!!!

WHERE does he get the money from to operate???


298 posted on 04/04/2014 11:10:26 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: butterdezillion
It’s that demoralization of the majority of Americans that has allowed the wolf to come in and kill a LOT of chickens in full view of everyone, but with nobody willing or able to demand that it stop. I mentioned 3 “scandals”. There’s also NSA-gate, IRS-gate, etc. We all know this regime is a criminal enterprise, but we’re afraid of losing our “credibility” if we come right out and say it.

There is a serious problem with what you are trying to do here. NSA, IRS, Fast and Furious - those are real scandals with hard evidence where the Dems and MSM try to pretend otherwise. However, you are pushing a 'scandal' that fails Occam's Razor on so many levels - and by trying to wrap the mantle of actual, real scandals around your severely contrived scandal, you give the other side ammo to paint all of us as nutbars when we raise, say, the IRS scandal.

Seriously, the Fogbow types (and I only visited that site for the first time today, looks like a pretty typical left-wing-trashing-the-right-wing site), actually love having you spout such theories as you have done here. So they can broadcast them as evidence of how wigged out conservatives are, just as we pile it on when a liberal goes bonkers.

299 posted on 04/04/2014 11:11:14 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: butterdezillion

I think we were/are in the hundreds that joined F.R. for the SAME reason as you!

I think the incident in Central Park got Glenn to move to Texas!!

On Facebook I saw a couple days ago a video demonstration from an inner city where a guy pretended to pacify a young girl with a cloth over her mouth who screamed loudly and abducted her running down the street with her “unconscious”. Nobody raised an eyebrow of turned heads. He even tried in front of a Police Cruiser. Same result the Officer just start cruising down the same street in opposite direction and NO reaction from him either!!!

Is that what we want on F.R.???


300 posted on 04/04/2014 11:21:20 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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